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It has now come to the stage where something has to be done to bring down the costs of the general run of the mill rider. If they want to be competative, in the PL and EL then they are going to have to dig deep in their pockets, to get an engine to stay with the top riders who are spending silly money. Time to standardise all the engines, make the GM a package as with the Gerhard and make them stick with what they have got.Then will then see who is the better riders or is it the engines that win the races.

The sport is getting so out of hand.

Let them spend all the silly money they want to on the engines for the GP's it would be no different to how they do it in the moter racing world with the F1. That is why they brought in the Renualt and other classes of racing to make the sport easy for those with less cash to play about with. iF THEY CAN DO IT THEN SO CAN SPEEDWAY

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I recorded the Swedish speedway that was shown at 100p.m last night on Euro Sport. Gregory Laguta was using a Gerhard engine and was he fast. He made the other lads look like they where riding on a 50cc moped. Very good signs. PK was using a GR so does he just use the Gerhards engines when in the UK.

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I recorded the Swedish speedway that was shown at 100p.m last night on Euro Sport. Gregory Laguta was using a Gerhard engine and was he fast. He made the other lads look like they where riding on a 50cc moped. Very good signs. PK was using a GR so does he just use the Gerhards engines when in the UK.

I believe PK, Bomber and Lambert are using test engines and giving opinions and testing set-ups.

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I recorded the Swedish speedway that was shown at 100p.m last night on Euro Sport. Gregory Laguta was using a Gerhard engine and was he fast. He made the other lads look like they where riding on a 50cc moped. Very good signs. PK was using a GR so does he just use the Gerhards engines when in the UK.

WRONG on both counts I'm afraid... neither Laguta or Karlsson was on a GTR. PK did ride one at Lakeside on Monday and as I have posted elsewhere is having a couple to try in both England and Sweden. Kelvin Tatum, who rode with Peter in Sweden for many years of course, feels that his experience and feed back can be invaluable.

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Just noticed in last weeks comic on page 28 that Danny King riding a GTR at Peterborough.

CORRECT ... he asked to try one after the SWC. Used his GM in his final, vital ride which won Ipswich the meeting, and later told Tatum that he wished he or Gerhard had been there to help with set-up.

 

Harris likely to use one at Cardiff, Lambert too if he gets a ride although of course he will have four practice sessions on Friday.

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Not sure what engine Laguta was using then as the engine was the same shapre at the Gerhard, any clues, not a Gm he was using.

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Not sure what engine Laguta was using then as the engine was the same shapre at the Gerhard, any clues, not a Gm he was using.

If you google 'grigory laguta speedway rider' and click on images, there are some pictures of him with an unusual looking engine but it is actually a GM with a different top.

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ALSO posted this elsewhere ...

 

When Kelvin Tatum first rode a GTR at Prague for pre-SGP social media purposes there was no expectations that GP riders would suddenly jump off their GMs and ride what were and remain relatively unknown engines. But Chris Harris did ask if he could try one in practice, liked it, used it in the meeting and again at King's Lynn for the SWC.

That was how he came to get to try them in the first place.

Previously Kelvin and Marcel had a day's practice at King's Lynn during which they were unexpectedly joined by Robert Lambert who had a few spins himself on a GTR.

Gerhard travelled to Vojens and had GTRs available for Harris, including the one he used at KL, but Chris declined to use it, either in practice or the meeting itself. But subsequently he asked if he could have one for the British Final and Marcel drove from Denmark to Wolverhampton although both he and Kelvin felt the set-up of the ones available were not best suited to Monmore.

Chris then indicated that he would like to have one at Cardiff and again Marcel made the journey from Switzerland with four engines. Lambert had one but Chris, having not told Marcel until he arrived on Friday, said he now intended to use his GMs which he had ridden successfully in England over the previous few days.

Clearly, no other SGP riders were going to change engines at the drop of a hat on the eve of the sport's biggest meeting of the season and Harris was only prepared to change his mind in exchange for a pretty substantial inducement, which GTR were not prepared to pay.

Whether or not Harris would have fared better on a GTR than he did on his GMs can only be a matter of conjecture but having been let down twice, at Vojens and Cardiff, it will be somewhat surprising if they give him another chance.

Lambert has provided some decent feedback and GTR are now working with the vastly experienced Peter Karlsson in helping with the continuing development of the engine.

They (including Kelvin) had also planned to go to Poland for Jarek Hampel to give them a spin but obviously that won't happen now.

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I know we have only heard one side of the story, but Bomber's actions sound completely out of order to me.

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ALSO posted this elsewhere ...

 

When Kelvin Tatum first rode a GTR at Prague for pre-SGP social media purposes there was no expectations that GP riders would suddenly jump off their GMs and ride what were and remain relatively unknown engines. But Chris Harris did ask if he could try one in practice, liked it, used it in the meeting and again at King's Lynn for the SWC.

That was how he came to get to try them in the first place.

Previously Kelvin and Marcel had a day's practice at King's Lynn during which they were unexpectedly joined by Robert Lambert who had a few spins himself on a GTR.

Gerhard travelled to Vojens and had GTRs available for Harris, including the one he used at KL, but Chris declined to use it, either in practice or the meeting itself. But subsequently he asked if he could have one for the British Final and Marcel drove from Denmark to Wolverhampton although both he and Kelvin felt the set-up of the ones available were not best suited to Monmore.

Chris then indicated that he would like to have one at Cardiff and again Marcel made the journey from Switzerland with four engines. Lambert had one but Chris, having not told Marcel until he arrived on Friday, said he now intended to use his GMs which he had ridden successfully in England over the previous few days.

Clearly, no other SGP riders were going to change engines at the drop of a hat on the eve of the sport's biggest meeting of the season and Harris was only prepared to change his mind in exchange for a pretty substantial inducement, which GTR were not prepared to pay.

Whether or not Harris would have fared better on a GTR than he did on his GMs can only be a matter of conjecture but having been let down twice, at Vojens and Cardiff, it will be somewhat surprising if they give him another chance.

Lambert has provided some decent feedback and GTR are now working with the vastly experienced Peter Karlsson in helping with the continuing development of the engine.

They (including Kelvin) had also planned to go to Poland for Jarek Hampel to give them a spin but obviously that won't happen now.

Thanks Phil for clearing things up :t:

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Whether or not Harris would have fared better on a GTR than he did on his GMs can only be a matter of conjecture but having been let down twice, at Vojens and Cardiff, it will be somewhat surprising if they give him another chance.

I see where you are coming from, but the final part of your post seems at odds with comments made by GTR themselves and Chris Harris on social media.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gerhardengines/status/617363776388657152

Edited by G the Bee

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