scaramanga 902 Posted December 9, 2015 As far as I am aware Mason Campton gets back in because he won the Queensland Championship at the weekend and the rules state that they have to finish in the top 4 of their state/national championships to get a visa as of right............... Where the 5.00 average for Jake Allen comes from I am not sure.............. RP finish top 4 or have a average of 7 or higher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EIS002 159 Posted December 9, 2015 is that correct and not a made up theory .? True Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 9, 2015 Meanwhile.... Nielsen 4.74 Ellis 4.67 Morris 4.53 dont have PL places..... I always thought that until there were no EU riders left out of the job. If you can an employ someone who doesn't need a work permit you have to employ them first. This isn't a speedway specific thing but a work permit thing. Seems mad to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted December 9, 2015 I always thought that until there were no EU riders left out of the job. If you can an employ someone who doesn't need a work permit you have to employ them first. This isn't a speedway specific thing but a work permit thing. Seems mad to me! Technically the three riders that were mentioned are employed as they are racing in other leagues............ RP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) when chris kerr was ridding over here he was given 2 or 3 year to maintain his average it wasnt put back upto 7pts untill this period ran out or he switched to a different team not sure which was firstChris alerts averages was NEVER reset. Which I'm sure would have been one of thing the UKV&I highlighted last winter. Technically the three riders that were mentioned are employed as they are racing in other leagues............ RP Good point! Actually, does Ash Morris have a team place? Edited December 9, 2015 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted December 9, 2015 Riding for Cradley I believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 902 Posted December 9, 2015 there was deffinatly talk of chris kerrs average being put back up to 7 maybe it was if he changed teams rather than stick with the team he started 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted December 11, 2015 Riding for Cradley I believe Correct he is at Cradley........... RP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted December 17, 2015 Rob Godfrey has explained the rule changes, proposed by Alex Harkess, in the Speedway Star. New riders will, as we've found out, come in on 5 points, but they will have to have gained a 7 point average by the time their visa is due for renewal. That could be one, two or three years and if they don't achieve it they then have to qualify via the championship route. As an example, Scunthorpe are giving Taylor Poole a 3 year contract which gives him 3 seasons to reach a 7 point average. The best news though is that any new foreign rider, including Europeans, won't drop below a 5 point average for the next year which will protect the NL reserve. Existing foreign riders with an average will be able to keep it but the 5 point minimum will apply for the following season. As examples, Paco Castagna and Coty Garcy keep their 3 point averages next season, but if they haven't reached 5 by the end of the season, they come back in 2017 on 5. Also if Zach Wajtknecht gets an average better than Jake Allen and/or BWD, as long as it's below 5 he'll stay at reserve. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,074 Posted December 17, 2015 Rob Godfrey has explained the rule changes, proposed by Alex Harkess, in the Speedway Star. New riders will, as we've found out, come in on 5 points, but they will have to have gained a 7 point average by the time their visa is due for renewal. That could be one, two or three years and if they don't achieve it they then have to qualify via the championship route. As an example, Scunthorpe are giving Taylor Poole a 3 year contract which gives him 3 seasons to reach a 7 point average. The best news though is that any new foreign rider, including Europeans, won't drop below a 5 point average for the next year which will protect the NL reserve. Existing foreign riders with an average will be able to keep it but the 5 point minimum will apply for the following season. As examples, Paco Castagna and Coty Garcy keep their 3 point averages next season, but if they haven't reached 5 by the end of the season, they come back in 2017 on 5. Also if Zach Wajtknecht gets an average better than Jake Allen and/or BWD, as long as it's below 5 he'll stay at reserve. At least that is sensible , I've long thought that foreign riders coming in on a 5 point average shouldn't be given an average that dips below that . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,482 Posted December 17, 2015 Well done Alex. Such a clever man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 17, 2015 The best news though is that any new foreign rider, including Europeans, won't drop below a 5 point average for the next year which will protect the NL reserve. Existing foreign riders with an average will be able to keep it but the 5 point minimum will apply for the following season. As examples, Paco Castagna and Coty Garcy keep their 3 point averages next season, but if they haven't reached 5 by the end of the season, they come back in 2017 on 5. Also if Zach Wajtknecht gets an average better than Jake Allen and/or BWD, as long as it's below 5 he'll stay at reserve. Now if only someone (or a group of people) had come up with this great idea before!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted December 17, 2015 Now if only someone (or a group of people) had come up with this great idea before!! If they had, they must be thick or biased or both. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,888 Posted December 17, 2015 Rob Godfrey has explained the rule changes, proposed by Alex Harkess, in the Speedway Star. New riders will, as we've found out, come in on 5 points, but they will have to have gained a 7 point average by the time their visa is due for renewal. That could be one, two or three years and if they don't achieve it they then have to qualify via the championship route. As an example, Scunthorpe are giving Taylor Poole a 3 year contract which gives him 3 seasons to reach a 7 point average. The best news though is that any new foreign rider, including Europeans, won't drop below a 5 point average for the next year which will protect the NL reserve. Existing foreign riders with an average will be able to keep it but the 5 point minimum will apply for the following season. As examples, Paco Castagna and Coty Garcy keep their 3 point averages next season, but if they haven't reached 5 by the end of the season, they come back in 2017 on 5. Also if Zach Wajtknecht gets an average better than Jake Allen and/or BWD, as long as it's below 5 he'll stay at reserve. Interesting that they've used Somerset as the example, to explain the last point - Any reason for this? All seems to make sense though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northyorksbear 610 Posted December 17, 2015 Interesting that they've used Somerset as the example, to explain the last point - Any reason for this? All seems to make sense though. I guess Somerset were used as they have two foreign riders on 5pt assessed averages 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
