BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 11, 2016 Conveniently omitting that Lee Richardson also rode for Poole; that the Lakeside management were in full agreement to the Masters change (bearing in mind he didn't get injured until the parade lap!!) and that the change was sanctioned and approved by the SCB official. Also the meeting was not ridden 'under protest'!! You do realise this makes it even worse? So it wasn't an oversight but an absolute blatant flat out brazen display of cheating! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 11, 2016 It was Mike Golding who told me what happened. I was told Norrie Allen wouldn't budge one iota and Matt just had enough because it was going nowhere and he wasn't prepared to pay the huge increase Allen was demanding. I doubt there wasn't a single Poole fan who wasn't gutted at the outcome. Its clear where the blame lies in all this. Mark Loram should have sat down with Norrie Allen before the bargaining stared and said, get the best deal you can but don't jeapodise my team berth. Instead Allen went in there and without the slightest bit of flexibility promptly put Matt Ford in a position that left no manoeuvrability. If, after hearing nothing from Matt Ford after a couple of days, why didn't he right him and try to sort something out? If it meant backing down so be it. Instead he lost his place and ended up at Peterborough on probably a lot less money than he was on before. From then on his career went downhill. Matt Ford is shrewd but he would have wanted Loram back, especially as he was World Champion and the extra sponsorship that would have brought to the club. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted April 11, 2016 Since when was not agreeing a deal with a rider a sign a promoter is a bad egg? Typical. We're discussing Poole cheating and the BSF has gone off on a pointless tangent about something totally not relevant. If it was any other promoter nobody would care, so what? Matt Ford did what he had to do to win, what exactly did he do wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted April 11, 2016 I find it very amusing that some people are coming out with stuff that unless they were a party to the conversations between Matt Ford and the people who were involved in person have nothing to base their so called facts on............. No team is perfect but you seem to like to rip Poole apart............ The items in the press which I would have read at the time mean nothing...........we all know that the press bend the truth to suit their purpose...........its a pity some so called fans like to do the same.............. There are two in particular that have posted stuff which in no way is factual..................and tantamount to libel.............unless you were involved in the conversations between Matt Ford and the parties involved then you know nothing............I doubt that those involved have ever spoken to Matt direct about these allegations............and would not have the guts to question him either.............so either put up or shut up............ Some people need to put their own teams in order before trying to knock ours down............ RP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) I find it very amusing that some people are coming out with stuff that unless they were a party to the conversations between Matt Ford and the people who were involved in person have nothing to base their so called facts on............. No team is perfect but you seem to like to rip Poole apart............ The items in the press which I would have read at the time mean nothing...........we all know that the press bend the truth to suit their purpose...........its a pity some so called fans like to do the same.............. There are two in particular that have posted stuff which in no way is factual..................and tantamount to libel.............unless you were involved in the conversations between Matt Ford and the parties involved then you know nothing............I doubt that those involved have ever spoken to Matt direct about these allegations............and would not have the guts to question him either.............so either put up or shut up............ Some people need to put their own teams in order before trying to knock ours down............ RP since when do press releases from the echo mean nothing, you yourself have been sharing them for years citing them as truth?...... especially when they are pro matt ford .... but when they include facts about poole bending the rules they suddenly become unreliable you couldnt make it up....blue tints to the max why would mark loram have to put out a statement in his defence? Since when was not agreeing a deal with a rider a sign a promoter is a bad egg? Typical. We're discussing Poole cheating and the BSF has gone off on a pointless tangent about something totally not relevant. If it was any other promoter nobody would care, so what? Matt Ford did what he had to do to win, what exactly did he do wrong? because normally when a rider racing for your team becomes world champion you'd expect the rider to either get a pay rise , or at the very least the promoter be straight with him if he isnt wanted in team plans , but if the promoter didnt want him in team plans wouldnt that get the fans onhis back can you imagine if chris harris become world champ and horton turned round and said he's not in my team plans the fans would want to lynch him Edited April 11, 2016 by heathen chemistry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted April 11, 2016 since when do press releases from the echo mean nothing, you yourself have been sharing them for years citing them as truth?...... especially when they are pro matt ford .... but when they include facts about poole bending the rules they suddenly become unreliable you couldnt make it up....blue tints to the max why would mark loram have to put out a statement in his defence? because normally when a rider racing for your team becomes world champion you'd expect the rider to either get a pay rise , or at the very least the promoter be straight with him if he isnt wanted in team plans , but if the promoter didnt want him in team plans wouldnt that get the fans onhis back can you imagine if chris harris become world champ and horton turned round and said he's not in my team plans the fans would want to lynch him Did I mention Mark Loram?????????? no so get your facts right..................I have always said that the press cannot be 100% reliable............. Blue tints?????????? I see things for what they are and say it as it is..............if you don't like it not my problem........... And what they are is that you and others are bending the truth to suit your purpose which is not just detrimental to Poole but borderline slanderous in some cases..................you take every opportunity to slag off Poole but I have never slagged another club off in 40 years of following the sport.............and I do not intend to start now............there are some promoters out there which I do not like but I do not go round posting anything that could be defined as borderline slanderous.............. RP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice Of Reason 2,124 Posted April 11, 2016 there are some promoters out there which I do not like but I do not go round posting anything that could be defined as borderline slanderous.............. RP Nor does anyone else - quite simply, because that's actually quite impossible to achieve. When you write, or in this case 'post' something on a forum, the correct term is libellous. Slander is an action that is spoken. If you are going to use long words, then please take every care to ensure that you are actually using them in the correct context. Otherwise, your responses have the depth of a grain of sand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Anyway thats this weeks bitch fest about Poole and Matt Ford over and done with. There will be some other post next week which will start the usual suspects off again searching through the archives of the local rag to find something else to spew on about for a dozen or so pages. What can we expect next week? Matt Ford ate a baby? Edited April 11, 2016 by Steve Shovlar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reviresco 708 Posted April 11, 2016 What can we expect next week? Matt Ford ate a baby? With the expression he usually has on his face, he may well have ate a hamster... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solrac 313 Posted April 11, 2016 Nope, not what I was referring to AT ALL ...... I know, I'm a Nicki fan and an admirer of Poole (though I don't support them ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,018 Posted April 11, 2016 since when do press releases from the echo mean nothing, you yourself have been sharing them for years citing them as truth?...... especially when they are pro matt ford .... but when they include facts about poole bending the rules they suddenly become unreliable you couldnt make it up....blue tints to the max why would mark loram have to put out a statement in his defence? because normally when a rider racing for your team becomes world champion you'd expect the rider to either get a pay rise , or at the very least the promoter be straight with him if he isnt wanted in team plans , but if the promoter didnt want him in team plans wouldnt that get the fans onhis back can you imagine if chris harris become world champ and horton turned round and said he's not in my team plans the fans would want to lynch him If Chris Harris became WC?? Let's keep it slightly realistic shall we! 😂 The only people that should have a problem with Poole not keeping Loram is Poole fans. Why is a Coventry fan so bothered, it's bizarre quite frankly. You are more obsessed with Matt than Starman is and that is saying something. Maybe spend more time trying to help save the club you support and less time searching for articles to support your anti-Poole crap. Just a thought. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Edited April 12, 2016 by heathen chemistry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 12, 2016 Anyway thats this weeks bitch fest about Poole and Matt Ford over and done with. There will be some other post next week which will start the usual suspects off again searching through the archives of the local rag to find something else to spew on about for a dozen or so pages. What can we expect next week? Matt Ford ate a baby? Isn't it strange that this has been going on for nigh on 10 years now. Isn't it strange that many, many posters who used to post and 'bitch' as you say about Poole and Matt Ford now don't.. because they've given up on the sport completely. Isn't it strange how the more Poole have their way in the running of the sport, the emptier the terraces become. Matt Ford = Great for Poole.. Cancerous to the sport as a whole. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted April 12, 2016 Matt Ford = Great for Poole.. Cancerous to the sport as a whole. No worse than some of the other promoters.................especially ones who cannot keep their mouths shut and spout off crap about Poole...........Matt has tried to drag the sport into the 21st century with some of his ideas but they have been thrown out because the sport is still living in the past............and people complain that the sport is lagging behind the rest of Europe in particular yet when ideas to move with the times are put forward its a NIMBY attitude from those on the committee............a lot of promoters could learn how to run their team as a business from Matt...........instead of sitting on their backsides waiting for the world to come to them..............and its funny how some of you are still slating Poole yet there are other more pressing issues that need to be looked into like the New National Stadium.............why are you not slagging them off.............oh of course it is nothing to do with Poole that is why....................(for the record I do have views on what is going on with that but if I post them I will only get slated again) Some clubs actually get better crowds now than they did but the reason crowds are dropping has nothing to do with Matt Ford or Poole..........the reason crowds are dropping is the costs involved and people simply cannot afford to go as much as they would like to because it is a choice of speedway or put food on the table................its about getting your priorities right..................I cannot go every week because I a) work shift patterns and it is not cost effective..........I cannot afford £75 per meeting it would cost for us to go as a family so I have no option but to pick and choose my meetings.............its not ideal by any stretch of the imagination but its a fact of life...............not all of us on the south coast are rolling in money..............something has to give somewhere..............and sadly for a lot of people its the sport they love that goes by the board................ RP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted April 12, 2016 since when do press releases from the echo mean nothing, you yourself have been sharing them for years citing them as truth?...... especially when they are pro matt ford .... but when they include facts about poole bending the rules they suddenly become unreliable you couldnt make it up....blue tints to the max why would mark loram have to put out a statement in his defence? because normally when a rider racing for your team becomes world champion you'd expect the rider to either get a pay rise , or at the very least the promoter be straight with him if he isnt wanted in team plans , but if the promoter didnt want him in team plans wouldnt that get the fans onhis back can you imagine if chris harris become world champ and horton turned round and said he's not in my team plans the fans would want to lynch him They want to lynch him anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
