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Belle Vue Grand Opening Refund?

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Oh, the irony...

 

 

Talking about yourself again, I see. Ever thought about a career in politics?

"Talking about yourself again"? Lol!

 

I did think about politics when I found out Norman Tebbit, who is one of my political heroes, used to do what I what I do, but politics doesn't pay enough.

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Make it ten days now!

Good god you have a cracking postal service if your post arrives before 01.13 am every day.

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I'm guessing it will be 11 tomorrow being Sunday and all.

 

In all seriousness you should have it this week and if not I'd chase it up.

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Surely with several thousand potential refunds they would have made sure they had extra staff to cover it ? For gods sake I had my own business for 20+ years, if I run it like them I wouldn't have lasted 6 months

 

They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place

 

I have given up on the sport over recent years but this one really sums up everything that is so wrong

 

1. Failed to take any responsibility

2. Blamed contractors but I suspect had the meeting been a success would have gloried in the credit and not mentioned the contractors at that point

3. Failed to process refunds

4. Still want to blame everyone apart from themselves

 

Its a pitiful position to take and really is about time them took bleeding responsibility.

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They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place

 

I have given up on the sport over recent years but this one really sums up everything that is so wrong

 

1. Failed to take any responsibility

2. Blamed contractors but I suspect had the meeting been a success would have gloried in the credit and not mentioned the contractors at that point

3. Failed to process refunds

4. Still want to blame everyone apart from themselves

 

Its a pitiful position to take and really is about time them took bleeding responsibility.

 

 

1. Why take responsibly when its been made clear it wasn't their fault?

2. Pointless. I think they would have given all the credit to the contractors, but like you I'm guessing and making things up, so its pointless.

3. Factually incorrect.

4. They have only blamed the people at fault. Is that not the correct thing to do? They have not blamed the riders, fans, caterers, security etc so they have not blamed everyone at all and you are again incorrect.

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They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place

 

 

I don't think you've thought that one through, much like the rest of your points.

 

When did the tickets go on sale and for how long?

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They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place

 

I have given up on the sport over recent years but this one really sums up everything that is so wrong

 

1. Failed to take any responsibility

2. Blamed contractors but I suspect had the meeting been a success would have gloried in the credit and not mentioned the contractors at that point

3. Failed to process refunds

4. Still want to blame everyone apart from themselves

 

Its a pitiful position to take and really is about time them took bleeding responsibility.

You sound like an oxford fan moaning about wagstaff

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Eleven days now and counting...

 

Perhaps I wouldn't feel so aggrieved if it wasn't for the 500 mile round trip, hotel and £90 rail fare on a track that with the subsequent delay was never even close to racing on.

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I can understand your frustration but even for Belle Vue the Royal Mail do not deliver on Sundays.

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1. Why take responsibly when its been made clear it wasn't their fault?

 

The sport will never improve whilst speedway fans continue to apologise for the incompetent way in which the sport is run.

 

There are undoubtedly several parties that have screwed up, but the bottom line is the promotion is ultimately responsible for the project management and ensuring the track is fit for purpose. They are certainly responsible for attempting to go ahead with a meeting when there were known to be significant problems with the track and possibly other things as well. The fans pay their money to the promotion - that's all we need to know.

 

Speedway promotions seem incapable of taking responsibility for the meetings they put on, and only that, genuinely seem to believe they shouldn't be responsible. Witness all the buck passing over the GP failures over the years (and BTW - is Speedsport doing the track at Warsaw again after all the talk of legal consequences).

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It makes you wonder why Alan "Doc" Bridgett and Colin Meredith and SCB referee Graham Flint and David Gordon and Chris Morton and (immediately after the track walk/inspection) Tia Woffinden and Nicki Pedersen and the other 16 riders including Richie Worrall and Max Fricke who has ridden the track at length the day before and Breedon aggregated (shale supplier) and Mark Lemon and everybody else I've missed out didn't say the meeting should definitely be off before we all got let in.

It's almost as if (I'm going to go out on a limb here folks) they ALL thought there was a more than good chance of the meeting going ahead.

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The sport will never improve whilst speedway fans continue to apologise for the incompetent way in which the sport is run.

 

There are undoubtedly several parties that have screwed up, but the bottom line is the promotion is ultimately responsible for the project management and ensuring the track is fit for purpose. They are certainly responsible for attempting to go ahead with a meeting when there were known to be significant problems with the track and possibly other things as well. The fans pay their money to the promotion - that's all we need to know.

 

Speedway promotions seem incapable of taking responsibility for the meetings they put on, and only that, genuinely seem to believe they shouldn't be responsible. Witness all the buck passing over the GP failures over the years (and BTW - is Speedsport doing the track at Warsaw again after all the talk of legal consequences).

How many times can it be said. The bottom line is Belle Vue weren't in charge of the whole project. Manchester City Council were.

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