mikebv 10,263 Posted July 4, 2016 Don't understand the EL v PL racing debate to be honest... Virtually every EL meeting has the majority of its riders from the PL so surely the two leagues' racing cannot be that much different as its delivered by mainly the same people..? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted July 4, 2016 Well Ellis is more likely to stay on the bike for 4 laps. But Poole haven't been to BV yet, so hard to know who is better there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) No never seen Ellis ride poorly!! How did Ellis do in the British Under 21 final and the World Under 21 final please. in the British final he came 3rd, Bates was on his home track, in the world U21 he was riding 18 days after breaking his collarbone, he did pretty well to hang on at all ! but you knew that anyway Why are you talking about Ellis? Don't recall seeing him on a bike tonight'! (By the way - Ellis is the only choice for the U21 reserve spot in the SWC) Well done the Roobins - although the Bees were pretty poor (Harris excepted) Edited July 4, 2016 by Steve0 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted July 4, 2016 not 100 x better. better yes but far worse than the Glasgow meeting as I said good and bad in both leagues and tonight was dross. I recorded it on sky plus and pretty much fast forwarded after the first lap Highly debatable either way. Berwick was a farce of the highest order. Tonight was similar to Glasgow, although I preferred the Glasgow match as the first 4 heats were entertaining. A couple if decent scraps tonight with heat 15 superb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerite 319 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) Regarding Bates v Ellis, Whoever rides Belle Vue the best should be picked regardless of previous results, it should be horses for courses !!! Edited July 4, 2016 by Tigerite 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) So there you have it. You admit you were trolling by telling an untruth. Your hatred continues. Long may we continue to laugh at you and not with you. Is your arse jealous at the amount of crap that comes out of your mouth? Steve lets see if he is still laughing come October ...Kyle has spent most of the season on the sidelines and Adam has not faired much better, once our full team get meetings under our belt you will see a different picture. But dear old Gavin will still crab us no matter what.. And by doing so its the only way he will be accepted by the few on here.. Edited July 4, 2016 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted July 4, 2016 Regarding Bates v Ellis, Whoever rides Belle Vue the best should be picked regardless of previous results, it should be horses for courses !!!Exactly! It would help if Poole had ridden there, so you could get an idea how Ellis would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted July 4, 2016 Just checking this is the Swindon Coventry thread? Anyway what a difference on sky tonight seeing 2 elite teams riding. can't understand why PL fans say there league is better when you can watch riders in the EL like danny King, Josh G and Rohan Tungate who all impressed tonight. Also good to see some Polish riders, you don't get them in the PL and certainly not riding at reserve. And the team managers, absolute quality comments from both of them. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted July 4, 2016 Spud it matters not. Master Ellis has been touched by the Poole rubbishty stick and thats it as far as Gavan is concerned. Nothing against young master Bates (sorry couldn't resist that one) but Adam is a better all round rider. Bates is known as a gater and it was a gaters paradise tonight. Gated in his first but was awol after that. When you consider Adam beat Andreas Johnson on his home patch on Friday it shows the difference. Anyway back to the meeting thread and Coventry are still crap an hour after the meeting ended. So there you have it. You admit you were trolling by telling an untruth. Your hatred continues. Long may we continue to laugh at you and not with you. Is your arse jealous at the amount of crap that comes out of your mouth? lol what on earth are you wittering on about troll? I asked you how Bates did in the british and world under 21 finals? I knew it was his home track and Adam had just returned so please tell me what lie I told you are nothing but a sad sad man. you have some speedway knowledge unlike the forum d1ckhead who no doubt will be along in a minute , but you let yourself down with your blue tints. Such a shame as Poole have decent fans but are let down by you trolling and starman just being a t0sser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damosuzuki 696 Posted July 4, 2016 Up to heat 10 and the racing is poor. Please never scrap the edr in favour of foreign learners. Coventry's pole is meant to be one of the best and he is the worst arguably the worst rider in the el. I'd give the guy a break but watching him mugging behind a desperately dissapointed Gary Havelock was terrible. After his team were pumped and clearly not giving a damn. Poole at Belle Vue is a very interesting fixture given the track. I think a few of the Poole team will look forward to that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Just checking this is the Swindon Coventry thread? Anyway what a difference on sky tonight seeing 2 elite teams riding. can't understand why PL fans say there league is better when you can watch riders in the EL like danny King, Josh G and Rohan Tungate who all impressed tonight. Also good to see some Polish riders, you don't get them in the PL and certainly not riding at reserve. And the team managers, absolute quality comments from both of them. More teams so greater variety. Far more fixtures and no month-long gaps in the season. Until recently far fewer rider absences. Lack of a contrived racing formula and the illogical movement of riders within a team based on false averages. No fear that the league's membership is about to collapse. The lack of feeling that the league is run for the benefit of one club. The gap in standard from 1-7 far more even than in the EL, thus more even racing without the majority of races being split in half. No EL snob supporters. A more relaxed and friendly environment. Greater co-operation between promotions. Sadly it has caught the EL's disease of frequent absences. Of course the EL has names. Up to heat 10 and the racing is poor. Please never scrap the edr in favour of foreign learners. Coventry's pole is meant to be one of the best and he is the worst arguably the worst rider in the el. Woryna is certainly not regarded as one of the best in Poland. He is one of the compulsory u-21 reserves that include youngsters such as Pieszczek who won the World u-21 at King's Lynn, Przedpelski, Cyfer and Nowak, not to mention Zmarzlik who's in the GP series. Add in all of the many Poles in the main teams over there such as Janowski, Dudek, Protasiewicz, the Pawlicki brothers, Zengota, Miedzinski, Jedrzejak, Kasprzak and Hampel he's a long way down the ratings, riding for a minor club, Rybnik. Edited July 5, 2016 by rmc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pawel115 251 Posted July 5, 2016 Give Woryna a break he has been thru a lot this season(hand injury,incident with Rempala). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted July 5, 2016 God what a borefest really poor entertainment,the result i am not bothered either way but i cant say i enjoyed this meeting one bit. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Give Woryna a break he has been thru a lot this season(hand injury,incident with Rempala).Riders have to be robots at times in the eyes of some fans .... Swindon is nearky all about gating, can't wait for the new track. Edited July 5, 2016 by Trees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bee 26 426 Posted July 5, 2016 Both poles awful last night, Woryna should have been replaced weeks ago when we had the points to use. No ambition from the management to make changes and are just happy to see the season out even if that means being bottom of the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
