Starman2006 2,354 Posted January 30, 2017 I went to southampton v arsenal on Saturday which was excellent value at £15, especially if you are a gunners fan! If you are a Soton fan i'd ask for a refund... :rofl: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted January 30, 2017 ...................weatherwatcher.................I am stuck in a wheelchair, even I can see no matter where I sit. They even have a dedicated area between the 2 stands for people in wheelchairs, great view, if you don't mind being hit by the shale, but at least there is plenty of shale on the track. Now that surprises me that you can be hit by shale between the two stands as they are on the straight. I have to go on the 4th bend with the dog but try to be a bit further round towards the starting gate to avoid any flying shale on the bend, I'm too old now to be dodging shale and missing half of the action hiding behind my programme board. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWP 320 Posted January 30, 2017 i've argued this for years but it needs a cut in machine expenses and foreign travel as well as (unfortunately) paying riders less - the first may happen but the other two.... I'm not disagreeing with you. I look after a Danish rider who lives in UK. This coming season basics costs are 6 bikes, 6 engines, 3 vans to do UK, Poland and Sweden/Denmark. He is fortunate he has teams in all these countries, most riders are reliant on one or two UK leagues. Add in about 60 flights, hotels etc. Servicing of engines cost a fortune and is required after 25 races. Ignition goes on a bike that's another £600. I won't go into costs of a blown engine. Everything on a speedway bike costs a fortune, it's specialist equipment so manufacturing costs are high. Thankfully a bit of sponsorship helps. But at the end of day there is not much left personally for him. And that's if he gets paid by all his teams. I've jokingly told him financially you would be better off getting a real job but it's something he loves and racing is in his blood. So paying riders less is not the answer. They are not footballers running a round chasing a ball a couple times a week for obscene amounts of money. In the old days riders riders turned up with an old bike on the back of car. If today's riders did that, the promoter would soon ask where 2nd bike was and would probably sack him. So today each rider has to have 2 bikes and all the equipment which goes with it. In defence of promoters, they need £17/18 a person. I'm not going to tell you what my rider gets per point in each country. But as an example in the UK, take a guess of what the cost of 7 riders scoring 48 points in a meeting. Then take crowd size x by £17. After stadium costs, staff, electricity etc. Very little profit if any to the promoter. Costs to riders and to promoters are frighteningly high. Sadly it's something that won't change, it's the world we live in. We all know if your boiler breaks down, something goes wrong with your car and we all think or say when quoted "how much" !! Sad fact is speedway as had its head in the sand for too many years. Promoters have not marketed the sport. Look how down football was at time of Heysel, Bradford, Hillsborough. Marketing of the sport brought in sponsors, TV etc. This is what speedway needs to do. I do know Buster is dealing with this. But it doesn't get solved in 10 minutes. Fans need to keep supporting their teams, but fans need to help the sport to. Persuade friends to go with you. We need to start talking up the sport not keep knocking it down. This winter could have been disastrous, but Belle Vue, Coventry and Leicester are all running in 2017. Perhaps not in ideal situations, especially for you Coventry fans. I hope you are soon back at Brandon. But there are lot of people putting in many hours of work to solve these problems and take the sport forward. Speedway I think is at its lowest ebb, but talking to Buster personally, there are so many good and exciting things on the horizon. Speedway can only go up, you might not agree with me, but I assure with the work being done and if you the fans do your little bit to, we will all see the benefits. Wow this started as a quick comment and ends up as War and Peace lol 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,024 Posted January 30, 2017 If you are a Soton fan i'd ask for a refund... :rofl: How's league 2 going? Saints are off to Wembley, where are Pompey going?? Nowhere still be stuck in league 2! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Connor 351 Posted January 30, 2017 Great comment. Good insight into things d w p If people always dwell on the negatives then they will be magnified to an extent the positives get overlooked. it's a great sport and that's why we all go Hopefully everything that has gone on at Coventry will fast track the search for a new site. That is of importance because Coventrys future is extremely short without a new stadium. Doesn't have to be state of the art. All the pleasantries can come in time. But surely the ball is rolling in terms of long term. Any news on that front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) How's league 2 going? Saints are off to Wembley, where are Pompey going?? Nowhere still be stuck in league 2! First one since 76, make the most of it... Edited January 30, 2017 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazeaway 1,501 Posted January 30, 2017 First one since 76, make the most of it... Apart from the one after that in 1979, you really are a moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Apart from the one after that in 1979, you really are a moron. Ha ha, i don't count there Wembley visits, moron. Edited January 30, 2017 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted January 30, 2017 First one since 76, make the most of it... They have been to Wembley twice since ..idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) They have been to Wembley twice since ..idiot Jump on the bandwagon prat, why dont you...Yeh, thats as good as you are. turn up and jump on the first post you see. We've been to Wembley twice sinse Edited January 30, 2017 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted January 30, 2017 Ha ha, i don't count there Wembley visits, moron. You said it was there first visit since 76 so what are you counting ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) You said it was there first visit since 76 so what are you counting ? Not there visits You've just proved what a prat you are.. Edited January 30, 2017 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazeaway 1,501 Posted January 30, 2017 Not there visits You've just proved what a prat you are.. WTF are you on about you absolute idiot?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted January 30, 2017 WTF are you on about you absolute idiot?? So Blazeaway is also orion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazeaway 1,501 Posted January 30, 2017 First one since 76, make the most of it... Ha ha, i don't count there Wembley visits, moron. Jump on the bandwagon prat, why dont you...Yeh, thats as good as you are. turn up and jump on the first post you see. We've been to Wembley twice sinse Not there visits You've just proved what a prat you are.. So Blazeaway is also orion... You are without doubt the stupidest man I have ever come across. I'm speechless! 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
