sancho 28 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) If C Holder doesn't come back for Poole how will that effect his visa will Poland/Sweden sponsor him Edited November 8, 2016 by sancho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrMungo 708 Posted November 8, 2016 If C Holder doesn't come back for Poole how will that effect his visa will Poland/Sweden sponsor him Maybe he will end up at a different UK club? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dabbsjoe 149 Posted November 8, 2016 Ellis will have offers from at least 2 clubs in the league in Belle Vue and Leicester. I think after there troubles this year riders will be wary of agreeing deals with them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,963 Posted November 8, 2016 If C.Holder is not at Poole in 2017 how does that effect his visa will Poland/Sweden now be sponsoring him I'm sure some team will want him as it will be a loss if he doesn't ride in Britain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted November 8, 2016 I believe most Premiership Teams 3rd heat leader will be about a 7 or 8 so cannot understand Poole dumping him unless they have said "see what happens this year, which is new to everyone, lower your average & we will have you back in 2018 on a bargain" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,963 Posted November 8, 2016 Very sad to see Holder effectively pushed out the league. I wonder if Swindon will be forced to do the same with Doyle when they sit down and try to put a team together. I think there will be a lot of fans who give up on the sport when they see the teams being put together. I hope Swindon stick with Jason as had enough of watching the other 6 inconsistent Robins last season no matter how many points he takes up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbobee 144 Posted November 8, 2016 I would have him at Coventry to be honest ! Good rider and excellent out of the Gate .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted November 8, 2016 Holder has gone. Not in Poole team for 2017. Matt looking for strength in depth with decent reserves, although one will probably be a 3. Andersen to lead the team, with Jack Holder, Kyle Newman, Brady Kurtz. Plus a 3 pointer. I do hope Ellis gets himself picked up. Rye House could be a good bet. Don't hang around Adam get on the phone to promoters straight away. Ellis never looked comfortable with the track at Rye in his PL days. I like him and hope he gets fixed up but his average is a gamble, anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves. Can't see him or Rye House being a good fit for one another. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted November 8, 2016 Maybe he will end up at a different UK club?I'm afraid some people make it up as we go a long no names have named yet Is that confirmed yet? I thought Skidder said both Holders were signed up! I'm afraid some people make it up as we go a long no names have named yet I'm afraid some people make it up as we go a long no names have named yetthis post went wrong ignore 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,853 Posted November 8, 2016 Ellis will have offers from at least 2 clubs in the league in Belle Vue and Leicester. I think after there troubles this year riders will be wary of agreeing deals with them Under the old promotors then yes be wary. Belle vue will be run differently next year and 1st thing they will want to do is make sure they employees are paid in full and on time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted November 8, 2016 On a 7+ average which would see him riding as a heatleader? Same could be said about Jason Doyle. But hey ho. Good idea this eh.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) I hope Swindon stick with Jason as had enough of watching the other 6 inconsistent Robins last season no matter how many points he takes up. Me too. If Doyle is not in the team I reckon we'll be down to crowds of about 500 next year. (Sorry. Just noticed this is a Poole topic!) Edited November 8, 2016 by grachan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bleeds Pirate Blue 192 Posted November 8, 2016 Very disappointing re: Ellis, and Noddy if that also turns out to be true... What is really galling about Adam's situation is that, like others have suggested, he earned his 7.8whatever average on the track and deserved it. Compared to the likes of the Worrall twins, Jason Garrity I'd be happy to choose Adam on a comparable GSA. I'd also add - how can Poole fans who actually attended meetings in the second half of last season advocate signing Hansii on a 10+ average?? And as for those listing Davey Watt as a potential signing as well... seriously?? Hans was visibly slow and struggling badly in crucial matches as the season drew to a close, and now he's going to be our no.1??? Madness! I'd take Adam on a 7.8 all day versus Hans on a 10+!! Davey was fired twice in quick succession for being terrible, yet he's now a bargain?? I'm going to support the team we put together regardless, but give me Holder + Ellis and whatever else we can fit over Hansii & Watt + the rest ANYDAY! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Very disappointing re: Ellis, and Noddy if that also turns out to be true... What is really galling about Adam's situation is that, like others have suggested, he earned his 7.8whatever average on the track and deserved it. Compared to the likes of the Worrall twins, Jason Garrity I'd be happy to choose Adam on a comparable GSA. I'd also add - how can Poole fans who actually attended meetings in the second half of last season advocate signing Hansii on a 10+ average?? And as for those listing Davey Watt as a potential signing as well... seriously?? Hans was visibly slow and struggling badly in crucial matches as the season drew to a close, and now he's going to be our no.1??? Madness! I'd take Adam on a 7.8 all day versus Hans on a 10+!! Davey was fired twice in quick succession for being terrible, yet he's now a bargain?? I'm going to support the team we put together regardless, but give me Holder + Ellis and whatever else we can fit over Hansii & Watt + the rest ANYDAY! Quite possibly the best post yet on the topic from a Poole fan Totally correct in that Adam earned his average. And totally correct that its comparable with other riders in the league, a fact missed by many. Poole should in my opinion have built the side around Holder, Newman and Ellis Same could be said about Jason Doyle. But hey ho. Good idea this eh.. so on the whole debate only you and Shovlar see an issue with Adam's average, nothing new that you 2 cant see the wood for the trees. Poole have sacked a Brit, a Brit who improved leaps and bounds. And instead of him we will see the likes of Jack Holder and someone like Palm Toft. Adams average is comparable with every other rider and thats a fact not opinion. Poole speedway put a young improving Brit out of a team place Adam Ellis is a better rider than Newman and Howarth and his average reflects that. He isnt a good as Garrity or Lambert and his average reflects that, though i could see Ellis getting closer to both Take a good look at the thread and the views of your own Poole fans. They admit Adam made a mistake not riding Premier and they admit his average is fair and spot on. Edited November 8, 2016 by Gavan 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 2,983 Posted November 8, 2016 POOLE 1 Brady Kurtz 9.22 2 Vaclav Milik 7.94 3 Davey Watt 7.56 4 Jack Holder 7.16 5 Kyle Newman 6.31 6 Lewis Kerr 6.16 7 Nicolai Klindt 5.42 Total 49.77 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites