stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 11, 2017 bring in ash morris at no6 and drop max to no7,max has been thrown in as a leading reserve too soon.Them two ride superb together and are BOTH Wolves assets.Unfortunately nathen has got as good as he is getting,Ive no idea of the new rules as far as the averages go but most will have lowered theres apart from kyle Howarth who is flying right now. Ash for Greaves would be a no brainer but I wouldn't rush into any move until the averages and point limit changes as we need to maximise whatever points we have to replace Greaves to make us as strong as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,513 Posted April 11, 2017 Ash for Greaves would be a no brainer but I wouldn't rush into any move until the averages and point limit changes as we need to maximise whatever points we have to replace Greaves to make us as strong as possible. Everyone's assuming we will have points to play with, but will we ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 11, 2017 Everyone's assuming we will have points to play with, but will we ? We can only hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 11, 2017 Everyone's assuming we will have points to play with, but will we ? As it currently stands we have around 2.3 pts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted April 12, 2017 It's ridiculous if they don't apply a multiplier when new averages come out. It means that theoretically you could redeclared with a side that would have been 8.8 points over the limit atvthe start of the season! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted April 12, 2017 It's ridiculous if they don't apply a multiplier when new averages come out. It means that theoretically you could redeclared with a side that would have been 8.8 points over the limit atvthe start of the season! That's why the average is going down to 42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) It's ridiculous if they don't apply a multiplier when new averages come out. It means that theoretically you could redeclared with a side that would have been 8.8 points over the limit atvthe start of the season!totally agree. Probably should be around 1.2/1.25 to give a true reflection between the 2 tiers now and to take account of the realignment in top tier averages. Edited April 12, 2017 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted April 12, 2017 That's why the average is going down to 42I think you have entirely missed my point. If you build to 42 points based on old El averages with no multiplier, you have a team that would have co.e to 58.8 for team building at the start of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 12, 2017 Schlein and Howe for thorssel and clegg? On form so far that is strengthening, though both those current riders should be performing better. Schlein definitely value on that average. Thorssell has scored 37 points 14,8,5,10 is it that bad.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 12, 2017 Thorssell has scored 37 points 14,8,5,10 is it that bad.? The first of those two were as a second string under the old race format, so easy rides. In essence, as has been said many times, his home performances have been good, his away poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 12, 2017 The first of those two were as a second string under the old race format, so easy rides. In essence, as has been said many times, his home performances have been good, his away poor. For me the riders that have been mentioned with Thorssell being replaced won't improve this team Adam/Clegg/Greaves need to improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) For me the riders that have been mentioned with Thorssell being replaced won't improve this team Adam/Clegg/Greaves need to improve. It's not even a debate that Schlein/Howe is a LOT stronger than Thorssell/Greaves. Not that it will happen or even possible as Howe's average doesn't kick in till the new averages. Edited April 12, 2017 by BWitcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 12, 2017 Schlein for Thorssell? No thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) It's not even a debate that Schlein/Howe is a LOT stronger than Thorssell/Greaves. Not that it will happen or even possible as Howe's average doesn't kick in till the new averages. To get in the play/offs with Thorssell you probably will without him i have my doubts to be honest.You need him in your team for his home form alone.Lindgren,Howarth,Masters, Skornicki,Schlein,Howe (or someone near to him) ,and another 2 pointer no way is that a top 4 team. Edited April 12, 2017 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 12, 2017 To get in the play/offs with Thorssell you probably will without him i have my doubts to be honest.You need him in your team for his home form alone. Lindgren,Howarth,Masters, Skornicki,Schlein,Howe (or someone near to him) ,and another 2 pointer no way is that a top 4 team. You're right, its a top two team. The team proposed was Lindgren, Howarth, Schlein, Skornicki, Masters, Howe, Clegg.. Way, way stronger than we currently have.. but as has already been stated, not possible now because Howe's average of 4.80 doesn't kick in till the first average changes. We wouldn't need Thorssell for his 'home form' in that side. Schlein is very good at Monmore and Howe would outscore Greaves a lot more than Thorssell would Schlein. Away Schlein is arguably better than Thorssell, whilst again Howe head and shoulders above Greaves. As said Sidney, it's not even a debate as to which is strongest.. Schlein for Thorssell? No thanks. Nobody ever said Schlein for Thorssell. The original suggestion, prior to the discovery that Howe's average wouldn't kick in till the first average change, was Schlein and Howe for Thorssell and Greaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites