wandersome 281 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I never jumped ship. Found out from a friend that someone else had been given the job. I heard nothing until I phoned Buster and was then told that someone else was doing it. I then found out that it was the guy who has been helping me for the last 5 years. I had been talking to him weekly since the season had finished he never said a thing. Glyn good luck in the future Glyn. Looks like the people are still happy to crap on anyone in order to maintain a (minor) level of importance or power at the Lions. Looking at it from here I think you're better off out Mate, like most of us already are. I was hoping for a fresh beginning to re enthuse my interest but I for one am going to need a fair bit of convincing before going regularly again. SO far, the club appears to have a promoter who, as DH's sidekick, has been to this point either a laughing stock or a disaster, depending on the view you take, a small time haulier who became a promoter on the promise of getting a bit of free stone and stuff from Tarmac under dubious circumstances that didn't seem to quite pan out, as was the norm with these things. He now appears the main promoter and the clubs saviour, no?. Then we're told the lease has yet to be signed as tying up who is going to pay or make the track improvements hasn't been agreed yet, the issue being that new leaseholders want a man who didn't appear to have pot to piss in last year but still owns the stadium to sort the improvements, at least according the flagrag. Not quite brave new world I was hoping for. As mentioned, I'm going to take some convincing for sure! Mick. Edited January 16, 2017 by volty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted January 16, 2017 I can't see David agreeing to pay for any track alterations being as it was Mr Darcy who financed the changes to bend 3/4 last year and now Glyn has gone who is capable of doing them anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flagrag 704 Posted January 17, 2017 VOLTY/Mick- Thé lease is signed therefore Leicester are confirmed as operating if you go back over my comments I said the track work is going ahead and that negotiations are still ongoing about the work and who pays what. This is partly due to obviously the work being permanent and the promotion having a 15 year lease and also some of the work actually involves stadium infrastructure e.g lighting may need changing and what happens to centre after the work is it grassed again or tarmac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theboss 727 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) VOLTY/Mick- Thé lease is signed therefore Leicester are confirmed as operating if you go back over my comments I said the track work is going ahead and that negotiations are still ongoing about the work and who pays what. This is partly due to obviously the work being permanent and the promotion having a 15 year lease and also some of the work actually involves stadium infrastructure e.g lighting may need changing and what happens to centre after the work is it grassed again or tarmac Tarmac would cost about £50k so don't know where that crazy idea has come from, no wonder negotiations are still ongoing! I can back you up on this Jonathan. I was on the LSSC committee during your involvement. And I remember the likes of Ken Naylor, Robert Ball, Andy Joyce and myself working extremely hard to get a decent Lions following at the NA that night. It was a cracking meeting, despite the 38-40 loss! ;-) We were thrilled you managed to get the likes of Chris Holder, Lewis Bridger, Kevin Doolan and David Howe to represent the Lions and I remember well the tv news cameras being there. Our LSSC committee held the displays at Radio Leicester, made various media approaches and organised various supporters events such as the Q&As you did at The Blackbird Pub and an xmas party in town. As you know, all of these events supported by yourself, including the aforementioned council meetings, enabled us to eventually put in for the eventual planning application in early 2009. DH never did fully explain to the LSSC committee why your involvement came to an end, other than some vague issue regarding funding part of the application. Whatever it was, thats between you and him. Planning approval was achieved at a Council meeting in August 2009 and Sam got involved soon after, being presented to the fans at a Supporters Club event in November 2009. Personally I was happy with that because following your departure wed lacked anyone with any credibility from within the speedway industry itself. Sam had a definitive vision and used to use my city centre office space for various meetings and was working hard behind the scenes to get local business involvement and funding. As the campaigns chief designer I did numerous presentation documents and materials for his meetings with local business leaders, large companies and various enterprise groups. It should also be pointed out, we had NO money at this point. The money for the planning application had wiped out what budget we had left, and that includes DH. At one point he even wanted to introduce an ill-advised share scheme, that bombed. I remember the LSSC writing him a cheque at this time for over 2k just to cover a legal bill he had. And dont forget we also raised £5.5k to enable a concrete terrace on the back straight. To support the new initiatives and to make the planning approval a reality a Leicester Speedway Organising Committee was set up. The first meeting took place in the summer of 2010 in the dilapidated changing rooms at Beaumont Park. Present were DH, Sam, Alan Jones (who had been brought in by DH to look after the PR), Ken, Andy Joyce and myself. Maybe Linda Jones too, though I cant recall for certain. However, Sam only attended that first meeting as his fall out with DH came soon after when DH got impatient and moved the goalposts after striking a deal to tip construction waste on site. This wasnt what Sam had spent all his time working towards and he felt it had been deliberately done behind his back. That tipping deal is what actually funded the stadium being built - and is the reason why it was done on the cheap and ended up nothing like the plans we had originally presented to the Council and the public at various open meetings. The promised sports village ended up being a red herring and I honestly believe planning would never have been granted had the present set up been put before the City Council. They were expecting much more, a multi-purpose sports village that featured a cycling velodrome, 12x 5-a-side football pitches, BMX and a purpose-built pavilion/grandstand in fact. Once Sam had gone, it soon became apparent that the whole project was fast losing its team ethos, something which had worked so brilliantly for us during the 4 year campaign. Whilst on the face of it people still volunteered for particular tasks, such as checking the lorries doing the tipping all day every day, behind the scenes it rapidly became the DH show with a my way or no way attitude, something he quite vociferously enforced. That soon resulted in people such as Ken, whod spent so many years fighting for this dream to be realised to walk away. He and I ceased our involvement with Leicester Speedway Ltd in February 2011 just prior to the opening meeting, though I carried on as LSSC Chairman for another couple of months to facilitate one or two things wed had in the pipeline. I havent been to BP since 2011. We still follow what goes on up there because like you say in a later post, theres an emotional attachment, and wish the new people all the best, finally relieved that the person who without question did so much to get it back, but sadly even more to ruin it, is no longer running it. There is a lot of goodwill to repair with the many supporters and sponsors now lost. Effectively they need to start again. Anyway, just thought Id add this to provide a historical timeline following some earlier posts where the information was a shade cloudy. Steve Chilton Hey Steve Thanks for taking the time to put all that information together, has certainly made interesting reading for me.... and explained quite a few things. Bottom line is DH told me about his plans to charge for construction waste in 2007, however he never explained that it would pay for the whole stadium build... I can only guess that is why he pushed me and others aside, he had found a way to build a speedway stadium for Free and still hold on to 100% of the shares and any future value. If this is the case then I think he owes the fans the decency to sign over the lease of the ground to the supporters club, instead of keeping it for personal gain. I wonder Steve if there is any way of finding out from the council (under the FOI act) if any details were kept on the amount of waste dumped on the site so the total value of what DH received could be calculated? PS feel free to PM me your mobile phone number if you wish to discuss further privately Edited January 17, 2017 by jchapman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandersome 281 Posted January 17, 2017 Tarmac would cost about £50k so don't know where that crazy idea has come from, no wonder negotiations are still ongoing! Sorry Jonathan, I was talking about the company Tarmac Lafarge who Darcy does his work for not the actual black stuff (as i mentioned, a bit of free stone) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lionking 127 Posted January 17, 2017 The new promotion seem to be getting some unfair criticism regarding the departure of Glyn. Whilst I have the up most respect for Glyn Taylor, what he did with limited resources & what he had to put up with from DH the fact remains the club has been brought by someone who is a track curator himself in Buster. Ask yourself this If you were a plumber would you pay someone else to come & fix your leaking taps ?? The answer is no you would do it yourself , this is exactly what Buster is doing Kevin is merely a front guy & someone to help out who does not cost because Buster can-not be involved with 2 Premiership clubs . Thank you for everything Glyn as track curator & team manager but i assure you he isn't the last person who won't be returning to BP in 2017. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glennylion 89 Posted January 17, 2017 The new promotion seem to be getting some unfair criticism regarding the departure of Glyn. Whilst I have the up most respect for Glyn Taylor, what he did with limited resources & what he had to put up with from DH the fact remains the club has been brought by someone who is a track curator himself in Buster. Ask yourself this If you were a plumber would you pay someone else to come & fix your leaking taps ?? The answer is no you would do it yourself , this is exactly what Buster is doing Kevin is merely a front guy & someone to help out who does not cost because Buster can-not be involved with 2 Premiership clubs . Thank you for everything Glyn as track curator & team manager but i assure you he isn't the last person who won't be returning to BP in 2017. I think you are overlooking the way it was handled rather than the logic of the doing the job 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted January 17, 2017 I think you are overlooking the way it was handled rather than the logic of the doing the job Yes, the way it was handled was/is the issue.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Thank you for everything Glyn as track curator & team manager but i assure you he isn't the last person who won't be returning to BP in 2017. Who else is there to get rid of as you put it Edited January 17, 2017 by robert72 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lionking 127 Posted January 17, 2017 i have no idea who or if anyone else goes the point of my comment is people come & go I am sure there will be other people who don't return like anything when there are takeover's some people decide they do not wish to be part of it under new ownership so they go. Who else is there to get rid of as you put it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted January 17, 2017 Sorry Jonathan, I was talking about the company Tarmac Lafarge who Darcy does his work for not the actual black stuff (as i mentioned, a bit of free stone) Grassed again or Tarmac? So that doesn't mean Grass or Tarmac? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Hunter 368 Posted January 17, 2017 Who else is there to get rid of as you put it As far as I can see from the Lion's web site there are 4 vacancies at the moment (Co-promoter, Operations Coordinator, Team Manager & Track Curator). If you include the Medical Officer, there are, I think, another 19 people employed in various capacities some of whom must be vulnerable, especially those who have been subject to criticism on here in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted January 17, 2017 As far as I can see from the Lion's web site there are 4 vacancies at the moment (Co-promoter, Operations Coordinator, Team Manager & Track Curator). If you include the Medical Officer, there are, I think, another 19 people employed in various capacities some of whom must be vulnerable, especially those who have been subject to criticism on here in the past. given the location , I think there,s a vacancy for 24 hour security 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neb 312 Posted January 17, 2017 anyone going over to wolverhampton to see magnus karlsson race in his brothers meeting,this will be proably the last time we will ever see mk and pk ride in the uk and lets not forget how magnus gave leicester no less than 100% during his time there.it would be nice to give him a proper loins send off he deserves that at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted January 17, 2017 According to the website, it looks like Leicester has signed the 7 Tbc brothers as the 2017 team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
