foamfence 2,917 Posted November 2, 2016 Not do maths at school? Currently you have fifteen heats with fourteen riders. This means you pay for 90 points. You want 6-man teams? That's 12 riders. But you'll still want 15 heats, yes? So you're still paying for 90 points. Your saving is..........? The suggestion was 13 heats. You save on travel and all the other bits that riders insist on having before they sign up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,223 Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Not do maths at school? Currently you have fifteen heats with fourteen riders. This means you pay for 90 points. You want 6-man teams? That's 12 riders. But you'll still want 15 heats, yes? So you're still paying for 90 points. Your saving is..........? The amount you pay the riders isn't often down to points scored... Points money is often completely irrelevant given the differing deals riders do.. Zagar was said to be on £3k regardless of points scored... Top riders can get £2k basic before scoring any points therefore having No GP rider must reduce the cost base.. PS. Taking TWO riders out of SEVEN in the example I gave means FIVE riders per team therefore TEN in total not TWELVE like you calculated.. Did YOU not do maths at school..?😁 PPS. I didn't mention anything about how many heats a meeting should have..(?) Did YOU not do English either...?😁 Edited November 2, 2016 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solrac 313 Posted November 2, 2016 Looking at all the posts on here it's fair to say loads of people want something different depending on who they support and their own personal circumstances. Fair to say whatever comes out of the AGM they won't please everyone so damned if they do, damned if they don't. Who'd be a promoter. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Looking at all the posts on here it's fair to say loads of people want something different depending on who they support and their own personal circumstances. Fair to say whatever comes out of the AGM they won't please everyone so damned if they do, damned if they don't. Who'd be a promoter. The problem is that they seem to spend a lot of time and effort not pleasing - anyone..................... They don't seem too bothered that they, in some ways, are driving folk away from the Sport - not attracting them as they ought to be. Edited November 2, 2016 by The White Knight 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB1 130 Posted November 3, 2016 The problem is that they seem to spend a lot of time and effort not pleasing - anyone..................... They don't seem too bothered that they, in some ways, are driving folk away from the Sport - not attracting them as they ought to be. Whilst I don't have the confidence that anything will change, The lakeside withdrawal from the EL will surely provide change in the top division. Presumably nothing else changes then, as I thought all teams had to declare intention to run before the agm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted November 3, 2016 Whilst I don't have the confidence that anything will change, The lakeside withdrawal from the EL will surely provide change in the top division. And for those of us whose first language is English . . . . ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrion 26 Posted November 3, 2016 The problem is that they seem to spend a lot of time and effort not pleasing - anyone..................... They don't seem too bothered that they, in some ways, are driving folk away from the Sport - not attracting them as they ought to be. I find the words in the above post a fallacy, a misconception and a massively incorrect positioning of actual circumstances and quite unfair on promotions. It (speedway) is their (the promoters) business! It’s the thing they invest far more time and money into than the vast majority of fans (not something fans like to hear, but a truth none the less) so why would they (promoters) invest time and effort to consciously “not please anyone” and damage their own business? What you are attempting to say doesn’t make one ounce of sense – it isn’t considered, weighted or logical - it just sounds like the thing people think they should be saying on this forum now, mainly because it has turned into an echo chamber of the same voices saying the same false truths. Some fans have imagined the idea (wrongly) that promoters have attempted to drive a wedge between the sport and fans – the situation that is closer to the truth is that individuals tend to impose their own views on situations and then pass that scenario of as a truth, reality, actual event – even though said situation hasn’t actually occurred…but say thing often enough you might start to make people believe it. While it is a feeling and no one should be told to change how they feel, there are fans on here who should stop trying to pass their feelings of so strongly, so much so that they have created a promotional boogeyman that doesn’t even exist, and thus people on here are fighting the case for and against situations that never actually occur (eg your post) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB1 130 Posted November 3, 2016 And for those of us whose first language is English . . . . ? Nothing changes the status quo remains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted November 3, 2016 The suggestion was 13 heats. You save on travel and all the other bits that riders insist on having before they sign up. Really, so how do you do that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted November 3, 2016 Really, so how do you do that ? Six riders over 13 heats is cheaper than seven riders over 15 heats. (Some have been mentioning a possible change of format). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted November 3, 2016 Six riders over 13 heats is cheaper than seven riders over 15 heats. (Some have been mentioning a possible change of format).just nit picking as usual never got a solution is self 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,252 Posted November 3, 2016 Nothing changes the status quo remains. Don't think Rick Parfitt is going back on tour, doesn't like the accoustic sound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted November 3, 2016 Nothing changes the status quo remains. Yet you said Lakeside's withdrawal forces a change! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thebaron 434 Posted November 3, 2016 Smoke seen billowing from a chimney in the Broxbourne Wild Life Park, Herts ! Think something's been decided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted November 3, 2016 Smoke seen billowing from a chimney in the Broxbourne Wild Life Park, Herts ! Think something's been decided. Probably the first two days agreements just been abandoned and burnt. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
