Steve Irving 393 Posted December 11, 2016 So King had one good meeting on a shocking track? I dont think he will increase his average nor will he be the top number 1 in the league. Schlein could increase but several bad injuries will catch up with him. Covatti wont increase. Heeps and Newman are perrineal second strings cant see any improvement there Hume and Mountain will average between 2.50-3 do no great shakes there either Perhaps you should look for a different sport to follow Phillip? Speedway definitely isn't for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) So King had one good meeting on a shocking track? I dont think he will increase his average nor will he be the top number 1 in the league. Schlein could increase but several bad injuries will catch up with him. Covatti wont increase. Heeps and Newman are perrineal second strings cant see any improvement there Hume and Mountain will average between 2.50-3 do no great shakes there either Do you watch speedway at all? King will 100% be in the top 3 of the averages, only Cook was higher last year and im not worried if he doesnt increase his average as 9.50 will be just fine Yep Schlein is a risk Covatti didnt improve on a track that doesnt suit, now he has what should be a better track for him. Heeps is not likely to improve but will probably be the best 5th in the averages rider in the league. Newman has every chance to kick on as a second string and brings his elite league form. And your comments on Hume and Mountain are laughable. Edited December 11, 2016 by Gavan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,053 Posted December 11, 2016 Do you watch speedway at all? King will 100% be in the top 3 of the averages Yep Schlein is a risk Covatti didnt improve on a track that doesnt suit, now he has what should be a better track for him. Heeps is not likely to improve but will probably be the best 5th in the averages rider in the league. Newman has every chance to kick on as a second string and brings his elite league form. And your comments on Hume and Mountain are laughable. I watch more than you by your own comments. Cook, Lambert, Worrall x2 Graj. will all average more Thats been said about Covatti and Newman every season and never happened. Mountain has had a massive injury amd Hume isnt close to Smith, JPB, Bacon etc Perhaps you should look for a different sport to follow Phillip? Speedway definitely isn't for you. Why because i dont rate this Ipswich side that highly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Irving 393 Posted December 11, 2016 Why because i dont rate this Ipswich side that highlyYou're either blatantly a troll, or you're absolutely clueless when it comes to Speedway. Everyone will have an opinion, some will rate Ipswich as favourites, some will rate Sheffield or Glasgow as favourites. But to suggest that this Ipswich team will be bottom three then like I say you're either completely clueless, or trolling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,053 Posted December 11, 2016 You're either blatantly a troll, or you're absolutely clueless when it comes to Speedway. Everyone will have an opinion, some will rate Ipswich as favourites, some will rate Sheffield or Glasgow as favourites. But to suggest that this Ipswich team will be bottom three then like I say you're either completely clueless, or trolling. Cant debate why just resort to calling someone a troll. To suggest Ipswich will be top 3 is laughable your either a troll or a child ill guess at the second Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanF 295 Posted December 11, 2016 Can't see why phillipsr's comments make him a troll. Ipswich have some really good riders in their 1-5, but they probably don't have much (if any) improvement in them. Schlein is a gamble that could pay huge dividends or blow up in their face. The reserves are decent. I don't think they will be bottom three but they look overrated to me. I hope they do well, but it is perfectly valid to have doubts about them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted December 11, 2016 Much of what's best been said about Schlein was said about Kerr last year and he was quickly dropped by the witches, I think Covatti, Newman and Heeps have found their level, both the youngsters have age on their side and should improve whilst King is a class act at this level but unlikely to add much if anything at all. It's not a bad side but the real gamble is Schlein, if he comes good they could shine but if he doesn't the tail could wag a bit. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,251 Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Can't see why phillipsr's comments make him a troll. Ipswich have some really good riders in their 1-5, but they probably don't have much (if any) improvement in them. Schlein is a gamble that could pay huge dividends or blow up in their face. The reserves are decent. I don't think they will be bottom three but they look overrated to me. I hope they do well, but it is perfectly valid to have doubts about them.Of course he's trolling!! He has a dislike for Ipswich despite his denials which you probably aren't aware of. Whether this Ipswich team is rated as favourites or not is irrelevant. Some will rate them as favourites, other like yourself, may not see what the fuss is about and think they're overrated. But one thing this team isn't as it stands, is a bottom 3 team. That's just ridiculous. He even had Edinburgh higher who at the time had only named three riders. Much of what's best been said about Schlein was said about Kerr last year and he was quickly dropped by the witches, I think Covatti, Newman and Heeps have found their level, both the youngsters have age on their side and should improve whilst King is a class act at this level but unlikely to add much if anything at all. It's not a bad side but the real gamble is Schlein, if he comes good they could shine but if he doesn't the tail could wag a bit. TBF Kerr was a victim of the numbers game as much as anything else. Barker had suddenly become available and Ipswich as a team were underperforming. Something had to be done to try and improve and Kerr was the unlucky one although thankfully he was soon snapped up by Scunthorpe. With the greatest of respect to Kerr also, he doesn't have the same pedigree as Schlein. Would you have been happy to take him at Peterborough? Best case scenario is he lives up to his pedigree and pushes King for the number 1 race jacket, worse case scenarios he doesn't look the same rider as previous years but even then IMO a 7 point average looks modest. I honestly don't see a "gamble" of any sort. Time will tell. Edited December 11, 2016 by Catch22 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanF 295 Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 1. Sheffield 2. Glasgow 3. Newcastle 4. Peterborough5. Ipswich 6. Edinburgh 7. Redcar8. Workington 9. Berwick10. Scunthorpe The two big wildcards for me are Rory Schlein and Lewis Bridger. Don't know how Schlein will go after his injuries and Berwick will live and die by which Lewis Bridger shows up. If he gives it 100% I think Berwick could move up and challenge for the final play off spot. Edited December 11, 2016 by AlanF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Irving 393 Posted December 11, 2016 Cant debate why just resort to calling someone a troll. To suggest Ipswich will be top 3 is laughable your either a troll or a child ill guess at the secondYour grammatical errors explains everything perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukas 911 Posted December 11, 2016 Why can't the guy have an opinion?...and it's a forum not a CV so who cares about grammar!?...what are you..a headmaster? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,093 Posted December 11, 2016 Why can't the guy have an opinion?...and it's a forum not a CV so who cares about grammar!?...what are you..a headmaster? Too many on here resort to this type off thing spelling , grammar etc, it to me is a sign that they have no other form off attack so they resort to this old chestnut. Sad & pathetic really. You're either blatantly a troll, or you're absolutely clueless when it comes to Speedway. Everyone will have an opinion, some will rate Ipswich as favourites, some will rate Sheffield or Glasgow as favourites. But to suggest that this Ipswich team will be bottom three then like I say you're either completely clueless, or trolling. I would say he was forming his opinion which he is entitled too as much as you have yours. Just because you don't like it or agree with it he is still entitled to it i think he is being generous i would say bottom two but that is my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windy Miller 8 Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) amd Hume isnt close to Smith, JPB, Bacon etc Eh? The averages say otherwise. And unlike those others you mentioned who by the way also look cracking prospects, Hume has only been riding Speedway for two years after switching from trials. I saw Hume sit on a Speedway bike for the very first time in 2014 at Coventry when he was offered a spin and the progress he's made in such a short space of time is very impressive. He put nearly 4 points on his average for Birmingham this year from the main body of the side, not reserve. I'll have a bet with you that Hume will end next season with a higher average than the other 3 you mentioned. You're severely underrating this lads potential. Edited December 11, 2016 by Windy Miller 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted December 11, 2016 I watch more than you by your own comments. Cook, Lambert, Worrall x2 Graj. will all average more Thats been said about Covatti and Newman every season and never happened. Mountain has had a massive injury amd Hume isnt close to Smith, JPB, Bacon etc Why because i dont rate this Ipswich side that highly Cook maybe, Lambert doubtful but you expect both Worralls and Grazjoneck to average higher than Danny King??? Have an opinion for sure but have some realism! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Irving 393 Posted December 11, 2016 Too many on here resort to this type off thing spelling , grammar etc, it to me is a sign that they have no other form off attack so they resort to this old chestnut. Sad & pathetic really. I would say he was forming his opinion which he is entitled too as much as you have yours. Just because you don't like it or agree with it he is still entitled to it i think he is being generous i would say bottom two but that is my opinion. Don't even know where to start with this one, yours is even worse!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
