*JJ 512 Posted March 13, 2017 Always puzzles me how people keep going on about how modern bikes are so much faster but you don't see many track records being broken these days. The post-2010 silencers have slowed them down a bit. No-one, not even top EL 'stars', have got near Jason Lyons' track record at Birmingham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted March 13, 2017 Krystoff Kasprzak was clocked at 74mph on back straight at Leicester 3, maybe 4 years ago. It was timed with a speed gun.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
britmet 233 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Because, as stated above (Post No. 9 by Britmet), Bikes and Engines have changed over the years and a lot of Tracks haven't. Some are basically the same as they were back in 1928. The Tracks were OK for Speedway in those days but with the 'Rocket Ships' Riders are using these days the Sport has become faster (minimally) and more dangerous hence a greater risk of injury. Certainly I don't believe that the Bikes are that much faster that it justifies all of the cost involved in having them Tuned. . ? "These days ?" They were tried in the late '40s, but I didn't know they'd come back . http://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/low/Low-Rocket-Cycle-2.htm Edited March 13, 2017 by britmet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted March 13, 2017 . ? "These days ?" They were tried in the late '40s, but I didn't know they'd come back . http://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/low/Low-Rocket-Cycle-2.htm Aaahh yes - I remember - I read about that. In the light of your comment - a bad choice of words by myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted March 13, 2017 Leicester Super at 586 yards and 2 feet used to rival Hamburg and Rowley Park Adelaide for the one mile records. Seem to recall Jack Chapman and Arthur Jervis being especially fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
britmet 233 Posted March 13, 2017 Leicester Super at 586 yards and 2 feet used to rival Hamburg and Rowley Park Adelaide for the one mile records. Seem to recall Jack Chapman and Arthur Jervis being especially fast. . How old are you ? . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piston197 193 Posted March 14, 2017 I seem to remember one of the motorcycle papers ( motorcycle or MCN) testing a speedway bike, possibly Simon Wigg on board? on a beach somewhere to actually see how fast it would go , remember that they ran out of gearing before they explored the limits of the top speed, but it was something in excess of 100MPH and 120MPH comes to mind. Not relevant to a speedway track, but quite obvious why speedway engines are ideal for sprinting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,258 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) I seem to remember one of the motorcycle papers ( motorcycle or MCN) testing a speedway bike, possibly Simon Wigg on board? on a beach somewhere to actually see how fast it would go , remember that they ran out of gearing before they explored the limits of the top speed, but it was something in excess of 100MPH and 120MPH comes to mind. Not relevant to a speedway track, but quite obvious why speedway engines are ideal for sprinting I remember he did a test at a road racing track and as his speed increased he lost control of direction and went onto the grass and had a tank slapper. That was on TV. More here about speed records: http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=49929&page=2 Edited March 14, 2017 by SPEEDY69 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted March 14, 2017 Seem to remember Mick Poole at Sheffield in the nineties (?) one night getting clocked at 67mph when the South Yorks Police had brought a speed gun to measure every riders speed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,216 Posted March 15, 2017 Seem to remember Mick Poole at Sheffield in the nineties (?) one night getting clocked at 67mph when the South Yorks Police had brought a speed gun to measure every riders speed... if i remember that was on the first bend, so from a standing start to there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted March 15, 2017 . How old are you ? . Ancient Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerite 319 Posted March 18, 2017 The fastest 5 average speed tracks in the UK that are still in operation (based on track records) are: 1) Sheffield 361m - 59.1s by Ricky Ashworth on 14/10/2010 (54.70mph average speed) 2) Belle Vue (NSS) 347m - 58.2secs by Niels Kristian Iversen on 29/7/2016 (53.39mph ave. speed) 3) Kings Lynn 342m - 57.6secs by Nicki Pedersen on 11/9/2002 (53.17mph ave. speed) 4) Berwick 368m - 62.2secs by Craig Cook on 15/8/2015 (52.98mph ave. speed) 5) Workington 364m - 61.7secs by Richard Lawson on 31/5/2014 (52.83mph ave. speed) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skid Sprocket 243 Posted March 18, 2017 The fastest 5 average speed tracks in the UK that are still in operation (based on track records) are: 1) Sheffield 361m - 59.1s by Ricky Ashworth on 14/10/2010 (54.70mph average speed) 2) Belle Vue (NSS) 347m - 58.2secs by Niels Kristian Iversen on 29/7/2016 (53.39mph ave. speed) 3) Kings Lynn 342m - 57.6secs by Nicki Pedersen on 11/9/2002 (53.17mph ave. speed) 4) Berwick 368m - 62.2secs by Craig Cook on 15/8/2015 (52.98mph ave. speed) 5) Workington 364m - 61.7secs by Richard Lawson on 31/5/2014 (52.83mph ave. speed) Thanks Tigerite, You have understood exactly what I was looking for when I started this thread, any more to complete the list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerite 319 Posted March 18, 2017 Thanks Tigerite, You have understood exactly what I was looking for when I started this thread, any more to complete the list? I'll work on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerite 319 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Thanks Tigerite, You have understood exactly what I was looking for when I started this thread, any more to complete the list? Ok, I think I've got all the track lengths and info correct as some club websites don't carry that info, I have included Coventry for now despite the long term uncertainty there: 1) Sheffield 361m - 59.1 secs by Ricky Ashworth on 14/10/2010 (54.70mph average speed) 2) Belle Vue (NSS) 347m - 58.2secs by Niels Kristian Iversen on 29/7/2016 (53.39mph ave. speed) 3) Kings Lynn 342m - 57.6secs by Nicki Pedersen on 11/9/2002 (53.17mph ave. speed) 4) Berwick 368m - 62.2secs by Craig Cook on 15/8/2015 (52.98mph ave. speed) 5) Workington 364m - 61.7secs by Richard Lawson on 31/5/2014 (52.83mph ave. speed) 6) Peterborough 336m – 58.4secs by Kryzsztof Kasprzak on 20/9/2010 (51.52mph ave. speed) 7) Glasgow 319m - 55.59secs by Aaron Summers on 4/9/2016 (51.39mph ave. speed) 8) Isle of Wight 380m - 66.3secs by Jason Bunyan on 15/4/2008 (51.33mph ave. speed) 9) Swindon 363m - 63.86secs by Leigh Adams on 31/8/2009 (50.90mph ave. speed) 10) Somerset 300m - 55.68secs by Craig Cook on 25/9/2015 (48.25mph ave. speed) 11) Poole 299.1m - 56.91secs by Antonio Lindback on 14/6/2006 (47.07mph ave. speed) 12) Mildenhall 260m - 49.68secs by Steve Boxall on 14/7/2013 (46.87mph ave. speed) 13) Coventry 301m - 57.6secs by Chris Harris on 23/05/2009 (46.80mph ave. speed) 14) Redcar 270m - 52.2secs by Chris Harris on 22/10/2009 (46.32mph ave. speed) 15) Scunthorpe 285m - 55.18secs by Nicolai Klindt on 5/9/2015 (46.25mph ave. speed) 16) Birmingham 292m - 56.6secs by Jason Lyons on 25/6/2008 (46.20mph ave. speed) 17) Stoke 312m - 60.5secs by Ty Proctor on 8/8/2009 (46.18mph ave. speed) 18) Edinburgh 278m - 54.4secs by Craig Cook on 10/7/2015 (45.76mph ave. speed) 19) Ipswich 285m - 55.8secs by Danny King on 13/10/2016 (45.74mph ave. speed) 20) Eastbourne 275m - 54.8secs by Jason Crump on 29/6/2008 (44.94mph ave speed) 21) Wolverhampton 264m - 52.69secs by Niels Kristian Iversen on 29/8/2016 (44.87mph ave. speed) 22) Leicester 302m - 60.63secs by Craig Cook on 19/6/2016 (44.61mph ave. speed) 23) Rye House 271m - 54.7secs by Robert Lambert on 1/8/2015 (44.37mph ave. speed) 24) Newcastle 300m - 61.0secs by Kenni Larsen on 21/10/2010 (44.04mph ave. speed) 25) Kent 268m - 56.1secs by Adam Ellis on 30/9/2016 (42.78mph ave. speed) 26) Buxton 240m - 52.9 secs by James Wright on 29/6/2004 (40.63mph ave. speed) 27) Lakeside 252m - 56.8secs by Andreas Jonsson on 30/5/2008 (39.73mph ave. speed) 28) Plymouth 207m - 48.12secs by Craig Cook on 25/7/2015 (38.52mph ave. speed) Edited March 18, 2017 by Tigerite 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites