Skidder1 7,616 Posted April 4, 2017 I blame Kings Lynn for bringing Darcy over!!!!! ;-) ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted April 4, 2017 I'm trying to think of the current crop of Aussies who have forsaken the UK for somewhere else.... As I recall Brady Kurtz riode in Denmark before committing to Somerset so it does work in reverse. Time to end this thread and get on with the new dawn that is British speedway. It has nothing to do with what has happened, but what is going to happen. Poland demand that riders only chose two leagues maximum from next season. We haven't yet seen a single rider with big enough balls to say no to Poland. Iversen wanted to ride here but coudn't. Next year two leagues only. Will Holder and Doyle, Batchelor, Kurtz, Fricke give up Sweden for UK? Time to act. Start bringing in the British youngsters at reserve in championship teams, and Brits at reserve in the Premer league plus one in the 1-5. No Klindts at reserve. See. Doesn't help Poole. No blinkers on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted April 4, 2017 It has nothing to do with what has happened, but what is going to happen. Poland demand that riders only chose two leagues maximum from next season. We haven't yet seen a single rider with big enough balls to say no to Poland. Iversen wanted to ride here but coudn't. Next year two leagues only. Will Holder and Doyle, Batchelor, Kurtz, Fricke give up Sweden for UK? No they won't.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nellie 144 Posted April 4, 2017 Seem to remember them as part of a side rebuild they got rid of Kyle Howarth and replaced him with Mickey Dyer. Where is Dyer now?Good grief, how often do you need this explaining Any chance you could stop trolling, Gavan? I've explained to you several times already, Howarth went as part of a double change in May, when Ward was badly injured. They were replaced by THJ and Pawlicki. Dyer replaced Stachyra much later on in the season. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted April 4, 2017 Good grief, how often do you need this explaining He jumps from one thread to another.. Totally forgets about Ippo who are supposed to be his club. Alledgedly.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted April 4, 2017 Neil street was the king pin at Poole bringing Aussie to rider's and there was some darn good ones over the years.keep them coming i say You clearly want British speedway to die with your statement. There has always been favoritism for Aussies at Poole for well over 30 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluPanther 21,637 Posted April 4, 2017 You clearly want British speedway to die with your statement. There has always been favoritism for Aussies at Poole for well over 30 years. But it has delivered titles and entertainment, that's just good business sense.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duane 65 Posted April 4, 2017 Actually mr shovvy, Qld had a league in place about 20 years ago, pretty sure it was started by Tony & Steve langdon's dad, Ronny & Bob Cowley (Mick Doohan's mate), problem was it didn't last long as if you rode for the Townsville tigers & raced at Gold Coast it was a 14 hr trip to get there & you guessed it, 14 hrs back & when you were only getting $20/$30 a point not pounds you essentially rode for free. But it was good while it lasted... Aussies have used the British leagues as their training leagues, never making the slightest effort to get a league structure in place down under. Perhaps if such a rule was to come in, they would. Yes there are issues with distance but even a local league structure could be put in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted April 4, 2017 You clearly want British speedway to die with your statement. There has always been favoritism for Aussies at Poole for well over 30 years. yes since 1985 when stewskberry and Ansell came from Weymouth speedway would die without foreign riders anyway just my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Reading this weeks speedway star regarding the European leagues I would say Sweden are tottering on the brink. Yet they still sign expensive riders - bonkers. Some Polish clubs are in a similar plight but they have a huge supply of riders and pay crazy money but it cannot last. Edited April 4, 2017 by GWC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted April 4, 2017 You are such a windup merchant! Of course there is hypocrisy - whether you pick the team or not (as I pointed out previously). Poole has been a conveyor belt for Aussies over Brits for years and I didn't hear you complaining - but now you are - hmmmm! Spot on - but then it's Mr Shoveller you're talking about I do admire the "gentleman" coming up with the username "Shovlar" (text spell of Shoveller) - who else could have dreamt up that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 551 Posted April 5, 2017 Frankly it doesn't matter if Aussies or the Poles or any other nationality of rider is the choice of promoters over British riders as in the vast majority of cases they are doing so because they represent good value and are competitive at the level they are chosen to ride at.That said, For British speedway to succeed in the eyes of the public& media the UK needs to produce British talent capable of not only competing but winning at the highest level.And there lies the crux of the problem. British speedway needs top class British riders yet we do not produce the very best as once we use to do. so rather than denying foreign riders the right to come here and compete for jobs, The promoters of the sport here need to create the circumstance for Brits to be discovered, nurtured and developed to become the very best. And to be clear, this will be no easy passage for those riders involved, they need to have the dedication and resolve to become the best not expect it to be given them on a plate just because they are British.Aussies have left friends and Family behind on the other side of the world to try and make it in UK/Europe. Is it no wonder that Antipodeans are always in the tope echelons of Speedway whilst the UK struggles to find a GP qualifier? (Tai being the exception and we know where his roots belong) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Frankly it doesn't matter if Aussies or the Poles or any other nationality of rider is the choice of promoters over British riders as in the vast majority of cases they are doing so because they represent good value and are competitive at the level they are chosen to ride at. That said, For British speedway to succeed in the eyes of the public& media the UK needs to produce British talent capable of not only competing but winning at the highest level. And there lies the crux of the problem. British speedway needs top class British riders yet we do not produce the very best as once we use to do. so rather than denying foreign riders the right to come here and compete for jobs, The promoters of the sport here need to create the circumstance for Brits to be discovered, nurtured and developed to become the very best. And to be clear, this will be no easy passage for those riders involved, they need to have the dedication and resolve to become the best not expect it to be given them on a plate just because they are British. Aussies have left friends and Family behind on the other side of the world to try and make it in UK/Europe. Is it no wonder that Antipodeans are always in the tope echelons of Speedway whilst the UK struggles to find a GP qualifier? (Tai being the exception and we know where his roots belong) Would a young or older British rider be welcomed in Austrailia and get a home,van,sponsors plus get more rides than most Australians ? Would many young or older British riders be welcomed in Poland,Sweden,Denmark and get two leagues to race in ? If the answer is No then why is British speedway helping the careers of riders from countries who look after there own and not our riders in return. Edited April 5, 2017 by robert72 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted April 5, 2017 Would a young or older British rider be welcomed in Austrailia and get a home,van,sponsors plus get more rides than most Australians ? Would many young or older British riders be welcomed in Poland,Sweden,Denmark and get two leagues to race in ? If the answer is No then why is British speedway helping the careers of riders from countries who look after ther,e own and not our riders in return. if they had a league set maybe they would ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherwatcher 664 Posted April 5, 2017 The old Elite League was used by riders from abroad to make a few £ notes before the season over in Denmark Sweden and Poland started up. We have seen it year in year out where they come over here and when things start up over there they have gone, we saw it happen a few times at Leicester, plus they don't even have the Gaul to tell the management they are going, usually making some half hearted excuse say they are injured for about a month, only to find they have already been riding for teams over there. Will it happen this year, with a watered down league. We will have to wait and see, until all the oversea leagues start up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites