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Time For Brits First. No More Aussies To Uk Speedway.

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People are clear Shov isn't the Poole Management right? And that he can express views on his desires for the sport that do not reflect Poole's best interests?

 

Why does Poole's recent success with Aussies (and Poles) mean that Steve can't push a British riders first agenda?

 

Everything is so black and white!

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Surprised nobody has mentioned the likes of Gary Havelock, Steve Schofield, Scott Nicholls and the late Lee Richardson as far as Poole are concerned.

 

How far do people want to go back? Malcolm Simmons, Michael Lee......................

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I'm trying to think of the current crop of Aussies who have forsaken the UK for somewhere else....

As I recall Brady Kurtz riode in Denmark before committing to Somerset so it does work in reverse.

Time to end this thread and get on with the new dawn that is British speedway.

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I'm trying to think of the current crop of Aussies who have forsaken the UK for somewhere else....

As I recall Brady Kurtz riode in Denmark before committing to Somerset so it does work in reverse.

Time to end this thread and get on with the new dawn that is British speedway.

It has nothing to do with what has happened, but what is going to happen. Poland demand that riders only chose two leagues maximum from next season. We haven't yet seen a single rider with big enough balls to say no to Poland. Iversen wanted to ride here but coudn't.

 

Next year two leagues only. Will Holder and Doyle, Batchelor, Kurtz, Fricke give up Sweden for UK?

 

Time to act. Start bringing in the British youngsters at reserve in championship teams, and Brits at reserve in the Premer league plus one in the 1-5.

 

No Klindts at reserve. See. Doesn't help Poole. No blinkers on.

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It has nothing to do with what has happened, but what is going to happen. Poland demand that riders only chose two leagues maximum from next season. We haven't yet seen a single rider with big enough balls to say no to Poland. Iversen wanted to ride here but coudn't.

 

Next year two leagues only. Will Holder and Doyle, Batchelor, Kurtz, Fricke give up Sweden for UK?

 

 

No they won't..

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Seem to remember them as part of a side rebuild they got rid of Kyle Howarth and replaced him with Mickey Dyer. Where is Dyer now?

Good grief, how often do you need this explaining

 

Any chance you could stop trolling, Gavan? I've explained to you several times already, Howarth went as part of a double change in May, when Ward was badly injured. They were replaced by THJ and Pawlicki. Dyer replaced Stachyra much later on in the season.

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Good grief, how often do you need this explaining

 

He jumps from one thread to another.. Totally forgets about Ippo who are supposed to be his club. Alledgedly..

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Neil street was the king pin at Poole bringing Aussie to rider's and there was some darn good ones over the years.keep them coming i say

You clearly want British speedway to die with your statement.

 

There has always been favoritism for Aussies at Poole for well over 30 years.

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You clearly want British speedway to die with your statement.

 

There has always been favoritism for Aussies at Poole for well over 30 years.

But it has delivered titles and entertainment, that's just good business sense....

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Actually mr shovvy, Qld had a league in place about 20 years ago, pretty sure it was started by Tony & Steve langdon's dad, Ronny & Bob Cowley (Mick Doohan's mate), problem was it didn't last long as if you rode for the Townsville tigers & raced at Gold Coast it was a 14 hr trip to get there & you guessed it, 14 hrs back & when you were only getting $20/$30 a point not pounds you essentially rode for free. But it was good while it lasted...

 

Aussies have used the British leagues as their training leagues, never making the slightest effort to get a league structure in place down under. Perhaps if such a rule was to come in, they would. Yes there are issues with distance but even a local league structure could be put in place.

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You clearly want British speedway to die with your statement.

There has always been favoritism for Aussies at Poole for well over 30 years.

yes since 1985 when stewskberry and Ansell came from Weymouth speedway would die without foreign riders anyway just my opinion

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Reading this weeks speedway star regarding the European leagues I would say Sweden are tottering on the brink.

Yet they still sign expensive riders - bonkers.

Some Polish clubs are in a similar plight but they have a huge supply of riders and pay crazy money but it cannot last.

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You are such a windup merchant! Of course there is hypocrisy - whether you pick the team or not (as I pointed out previously). Poole has been a conveyor belt for Aussies over Brits for years and I didn't hear you complaining - but now you are - hmmmm!

Spot on - but then it's Mr Shoveller you're talking about

 

I do admire the "gentleman" coming up with the username "Shovlar" (text spell of Shoveller) - who else could have dreamt up that?

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Frankly it doesn't matter if Aussies or the Poles or any other nationality of rider is the choice of promoters over British riders as in the vast majority of cases they are doing so because they represent good value and are competitive at the level they are chosen to ride at.
That said, For British speedway to succeed in the eyes of the public& media the UK needs to produce British talent capable of not only competing but winning at the highest level.
And there lies the crux of the problem.

British speedway needs top class British riders yet we do not produce the very best as once we use to do. so rather than denying foreign riders the right to come here and compete for jobs, The promoters of the sport here need to create the circumstance for Brits to be discovered, nurtured and developed to become the very best.

And to be clear, this will be no easy passage for those riders involved, they need to have the dedication and resolve to become the best not expect it to be given them on a plate just because they are British.
Aussies have left friends and Family behind on the other side of the world to try and make it in UK/Europe. Is it no wonder that Antipodeans are always in the tope echelons of Speedway whilst the UK struggles to find a GP qualifier? (Tai being the exception and we know where his roots belong)

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