waiheke1 4,295 Posted April 21, 2017 Where's the rule on that? I just had a look but can't see anything.Section 18:10 facilities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,360 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Ok, so I've found the rules. Hougaard is riding in the Danish Championships. We have 18.10.1 which says that a guest or r/r is permitted for a rider appearing in their FIM Speedway Championship if permitted by Art 18.10. So 18.10 then says that for an absent number 1 - guest or r/r Absent double upper if riding for the "other" team - guest or r/r Absent 2-5 - R/R Indeed. No guest allowed for Hougaard. Edited April 21, 2017 by grachan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted April 21, 2017 Agreed. Yet we've already had Schlein guesting for Riss despite having a higher average. Obviously no one at the SCB is worried about teams following the rule book. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffeboy 577 Posted April 21, 2017 Is Pat Somerset's No 1 based on his current average, or does that change after the four home and away thing, not sure. All very confusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted April 21, 2017 Is Pat Somerset's No 1 based on his current average, or does that change after the four home and away thing, not sure. All very confusing.Can only be based on official green sheets surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,889 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Is Pat Somerset's No 1 based on his current average, or does that change after the four home and away thing, not sure. All very confusing.Has to be on official averages, which Tungate is still by far the no.1 on that count. I haven't looked at the rules myself but from the ones Grachan has quoted seems like abit of a boo-boo! The wording is so poorly written again though, why even include the "if permitted" part at the end of the ruling. Edited April 21, 2017 by Najjer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomersetBlue 212 Posted April 21, 2017 Ok, so I've found the rules. Hougaard is riding in the Danish Championships. We have 18.10.1 which says that a guest or r/r is permitted for a rider appearing in their FIM Speedway Championship if permitted by Art 18.10. So 18.10 then says that for an absent number 1 - guest or r/r Absent double upper if riding for the "other" team - guest or r/r Absent 2-5 - R/R Indeed. No guest allowed for Hougaard. It isn't an FIM meeting, I'm sure teams in the past have been enabled to request a facility for a rider in a National Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted April 21, 2017 It isn't an FIM meeting, I'm sure teams in the past have been enabled to request a facility for a rider in a National Championship. Somerset have been granted a facility. The point is, only an absent #1 can be replaced by a guest or RR. Absent 2-5 (which includes Hougaard) is RR only. Unless more than 1 rider is missing, which doesn't appear to be the case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aroundtheboards 264 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Let's hope the ref has his eyes on "roller" Brady at the starts as he's as bad as Sargent. Yeah! Hope Ginge behaves himself in that department ! We can do without disqualifications/exclusions !!! Edited April 21, 2017 by Aroundtheboards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,360 Posted April 21, 2017 It isn't an FIM meeting, I'm sure teams in the past have been enabled to request a facility for a rider in a National Championship. No question about them being allowed a facility. The issue is what the facility should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnglishRoundabout 1,752 Posted April 21, 2017 I will tell him, he normally carries a roll of Andrex Puppies on a Roll in case Izal is in place. Do you visit Somerset and Swindon? I do keef yes. Somerset has superb racing and it's an hour's drive for me. Blunsdon is around 45 minutes away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,889 Posted April 21, 2017 Somerset have been granted a facility. The point is, only an absent #1 can be replaced by a guest or RR. Absent 2-5 (which includes Hougaard) is RR only. Unless more than 1 rider is missing, which doesn't appear to be the case. The only thing I can presume is that Kurtz was booked as a guest if Starke was going to be missing. Seen as he rode last night for P'boro it looks like it should be R/R for Hougaard tonight which makes Swindon favourites in my eyes. He has been superb in all 5 of our matches so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomersetBlue 212 Posted April 21, 2017 This question was asked on Facebook and Àlun Rossiter replied to it stating Somerset are allowed a guest as it is his nations championship. If it wasn't allowed I'm pretty sure Rossiter wouldn't be backing the Rebels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,956 Posted April 21, 2017 This question was asked on Facebook and Àlun Rossiter replied to it stating Somerset are allowed a guest as it is his nations championship. If it wasn't allowed I'm pretty sure Rossiter wouldn't be backing the Rebels.Actually disagree as he wouldn't want to upset his mates at Somerset 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites