dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,692 Posted May 12, 2017 Incidentally, what on earth was the referee up to in Heat 10? The decision to exclude Lewis Kerr was completely bizarre to say the least. If he judged Lewis at fault, why didn't he simply let the race continue. After being bumped by Danny King, Lewis was at the back in any case... All the best Rob was a strange one. Lewis did pull a huge locker whikst in front. Danny did all he could to avoid him but did run into him. Neither fell and both planned to continue. Probably right that it was too late for an unsatisfactory start. Then comes down to the 'rider in the lead can do what he wants' arguement. Ref mustve considered Kerr to be not in control and therefore the cause due to dangerous riding. Certainly a little harsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesB 107 Posted May 12, 2017 The track does seem to have some grip this season but it doesn't look overly difficult. You only have to look at Greaves last night. A new reserve who hasn't ridden the track before and he seemed to have no problems. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted May 12, 2017 Danyon confirmed last night to some of the massif that it's more grippy this season. And you can see by the colour of it that it has a higher clay content than last year. The trackmam is the best person to answer about it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiqueSteve 100 Posted May 12, 2017 Incidentally, what on earth was the referee up to in Heat 10? The decision to exclude Lewis Kerr was completely bizarre to say the least. If he judged Lewis at fault, why didn't he simply let the race continue. After being bumped by Danny King, Lewis was at the back in any case... All the best Rob Think the ref got this one spot on...clearly Scunny were having problems riding out of bend 2 and on this occasion Lewi made a hash of it and went sideways (Danny) had nowhere to go and although he tried to avoid gave him a bit of a knock, but clearly it was Kerr's fault entirely and the rider behind had to shut off and was impeded, kind of unfair riding I guess to be judged Yeah right, read the Scunthorpe match report funnily enough they don't seem to agree with you. The tracks the same for everyone...you just need to learn to ride it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Think the ref got this one spot on...clearly Scunny were having problems riding out of bend 2 and on this occasion Lewi made a hash of it and went sideways (Danny) had nowhere to go and although he tried to avoid gave him a bit of a knock, but clearly it was Kerr's fault entirely and the rider behind had to shut off and was impeded, kind of unfair riding I guess to be judged Then why stop the race at all? Lewis Kerr was last. The ref completely killed the race as a spectacle. As for the incident, I would say 50/50. Lewis Kerr because he locked up; Danny King because he was the one who made contact and hit Kerr. Difficult to say who's at fault in that sort of situation, so the ref should have just let it continue. All the best Rob Edited May 12, 2017 by lucifer sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,692 Posted May 12, 2017 Danyon confirmed last night to some of the massif that it's more grippy this season. And you can see by the colour of it that it has a higher clay content than last year. The trackmam is the best person to answer about itIMO its an excellent surface - smooth but grippy. Any riders that attacks it will do well. Far better than the bone dry slick dust bowls that seem to be common place now. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89buttons 749 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Then why stop the race at all? Lewis Kerr was last. The ref completely killed the race as a spectacle. All the best Rob Was stood on the exit of second bend so it all happened right in front of us, agree no reason to stop it as Lewis regained control and was subsequently at the back despite having impeded Danny, Lewis did look certain to be going in the fence, and as a result the red lights seemed to be put even before he'd regained control so as much as anything needs to be a little less hasty! It was indeed shaping up to be a good race! Ref had obviously got bored of the restarts by heat 15 and felt bad for excluding Lewis in the aforementioned heat so allowed him a blatant jump at the tapes to balance tho 😝 Edited May 12, 2017 by 89buttons 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) IMO its an excellent surface - smooth but grippy. Any riders that attacks it will do well. Far better than the bone dry slick dust bowls that seem to be common place now. Agree. Best surface at Ipswich for years. Attack it and watch the money come in. Tracks like sheffield would love that surface Edited May 12, 2017 by baldyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndbendbeerhut 1,781 Posted May 12, 2017 Watching the Witches ride it... and there seems to be different ways into the bends. King full gas and goes for it.. Schlein rolls off throttle gets into corners then blasts out. Heeps goes a lot deeper before turning and then leans bike over and doesn't turn much Sedgeman similar to Schlein but stays more on inside going into bends Newman does a bit of everything depending on who's in front! Greaves seemes to have it weighed up. Stay on inside and let dirt pull you off the corners. The grip om the outside certainly made him stay on last night. Mountain is struggling with it and possibly needs to attack it more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted May 12, 2017 Was going to say hi to the massif but looked an unruly lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pob 545 Posted May 12, 2017 Was going to say hi to the massif but looked an unruly lot Oh Cookie you should have said hi to us lot , unruly well maybe but that's just one of our charms plus there's always plenty of pix n mix . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted May 12, 2017 You havin a laugh ain't ya, we the friendliest fans around. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,405 Posted May 12, 2017 (Danny) had nowhere to go and although he tried to avoid gave him a bit of a knock, but clearly it was Kerr's fault entirely and the rider behind had to shut off and was impeded, kind of unfair riding I guess to be judged What about the incidents that we see on tv in the GP's(the Pedersen move), old EL where riders are going round the bends & the rider infront goes to the fence to block/impede his run causing him to shut off, momentarily, to avoid an accident. This incident has been talked about many times before as well as riders pulling lockers for similar reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted May 12, 2017 I will overcome my fears next time On a side note pretty sure my prediction was close for once and had Sedge on 9 haaaa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted May 12, 2017 I will overcome my fears next time How could anyone be afraid of the Massif with their cowbells and various confectionery treats? All the best Rob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
