waiheke1 4,295 Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) A simple look at how riders have achieved vs starting average. Have divided into 5 categories: A: Strong overperfomers - those who have maintained or improved their starting average B:Overperformers : those who have dropped their average by 10% or less C: Average performers: Those who have dropped their average by 10-20% D:Under performers: Those who have dropped their averages by 20-30% E: Massive underperformers: Those who have dropped their average by more than 30% AVERAGES GSA St Ave Ratio Ellis Perks 4.16 2.32 1.79 Zach Wajtkecht 3.49 2.56 1.36 James Shanes 2.57 2.00 1.29 Kai Huckenbeck 6.29 5.04 1.25 Rory Schlein 8.49 7.17 1.18 Brady Kurtz 8.76 7.63 1.15 Mark Riss 4.52 4.00 1.13 Kenneth Bjerre 9.22 8.22 1.12 Cameron Heeps 5.67 5.07 1.12 Daniel Bewley 4.32 3.09 1.11 Joshua Bates 5.47 5.02 1.09 A Nathan Greaves 2.17 2 1.09 A Nicolai Klindt 5.78 5.42 1.07 A Troy Batchelor 7.79 7.36 1.06 A Charles Wright 6.83 6.59 1.04 A Richard Lawson 8.29 8.17 1.01 A Nicholas Morris 8.98 8.97 1.00 A Jack Smith 2 2 1.00 A Fredrik Lindgren 10.04 10.09 1.00 A David Bellego 7.42 7.63 0.97 b Lewis Rose 5.5 5.8 0.95 b Kyle Howarth 6.76 7.18 0.94 b Danny Ayres 3.26 3.56 0.92 b Samuel Masters 8.08 8.88 0.91 b Jack Holder 6.22 7.16 0.87 C Chris Harris 8 9.21 0.87 C Jan Graversen 3.47 4 0.87 C Robert Lambert 7.59 8.76 0.87 C Jacob Thorssell 8.53 9.88 0.86 C Craig Cook 8.47 9.88 0.86 C Danny Ayres 3.02 3.56 0.85 C Jake Allen 5.03 5.96 0.84 C Hans Andersen 8.37 10.01 0.84 C Patrick Hougaard 7.26 8.71 0.83 C Kim Nilsson 7.76 9.63 0.81 C Josh Grajczonek 7.14 8.9 0.80 C Stuart Robson 5.67 7.09 0.80 C Ricky Wells 6.29 7.92 0.79 D Lewis Kerr 4.87 6.16 0.79 D Paul Starke 5.18 6.62 0.78 D Lasse Bjerre 5.11 6.64 0.77 D Justin Sedgmen 5.84 7.6 0.77 D Steven Worrall 6.5 8.51 0.76 D Scott Nicholls 7.02 9.23 0.76 D Emil Gröndal 3.24 4.39 0.74 D Erik Riss 5.02 6.85 0.73 D Edward Kennett 6.79 9.27 0.73 D Max Fricke 7.25 9.91 0.73 D Jason Doyle 9.75 13.41 0.73 D Robert Branford 3.29 4.6 0.72 D Nicklas Porsing 4.69 6.58 0.71 D Dany Gappmaier 2.8 4 0.70 D Bradley Wilson-Dean 3.46 5.02 0.69 E Daniel King 6.16 9.57 0.64 E Lewis Kerr 3.82 6.16 0.62 E Josh Bailey 1.22 2 0.61 E Chris Holder 7.43 12.53 0.59 E Rohan Tungate 5.27 9.03 0.58 E Jason Garrity 4.92 8.55 0.58 E Kacper Gomolski 4.2 7.71 0.54 E Krzysztof Kasprzak 5.95 11.08 0.54 E Adam Ellis 4.17 7.8 0.53 E Kyle Newman 3.3 6.31 0.52 E Grzegorz Zengota 4.92 10.91 0.45 E Max Clegg 1.75 4.04 0.43 E Adam Skornicki 3 7.22 0.42 E David Watt 2.86 7.56 0.38 E The strongest possible team you could have named would line up: Lindgren, Schlein, Kurtz, Morris, Bjerre, Huckenbeck, Perks, who have a combined GSA of around 56 points, and would average around 61 points per meeting (assuming 5 riders to Freddie, Kenny and Kai, with PErks taking only 3 rides) Edited July 14, 2017 by waihekeaces1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nazza 3 Posted July 14, 2017 A bit harsh saying Doyle has under performed when he started with an unattainable average, good work though 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,062 Posted July 14, 2017 Doesnt this show how the system is flawed, of benefitting under performing riders. The rider at the top of the list has been dropped! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted July 14, 2017 A bit harsh saying Doyle has under performed when he started with an unattainable average, good work though understand your point, but realistaically he could have been expected to average over 10.7 which would have been the requirement to be considered "performing as expected." And as a side note, the worst side you could have named, which actually would have hit bank on 50 points for team building: Zengota, Newman, Watt, Sronicki, Ellis, Kerr, Clegg. Combined 2017 GSA of under 24, and would average under 27 points a meeting. A number of those riders have been dropped by their teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keef robin 551 Posted July 14, 2017 Ellis is improving at a rapid rate. Bellego Morris Wajknecht Bjerre Thorsell Batch Schlein Huckenbeck having very good seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bleeds Pirate Blue 192 Posted July 14, 2017 "B: Overperformers : those who have dropped their average by 10% or less" Sorry, but your naming convention is pretty funny. I'm not sure you can call a rider dropping their GSA by 10% an "over performer" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted July 14, 2017 Given that on average every rider was going to drop by around 17%, why would you not consider a rider dropping their average by only 10% to be over performing? Or are you of the view that over 70% of the league have underperformed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted July 14, 2017 A bit harsh saying Doyle has under performed when he started with an unattainable average, good work though What it shows is Rosco messed up signing a rider whos average could go one way in that case. Given that on average every rider was going to drop by around 17%, why would you not consider a rider dropping their average by only 10% to be over performing? Or are you of the view that over 70% of the league have underperformed? You can't expect people to understand maths You need 45 points to win a meeting, the points limit should be 45 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted July 14, 2017 A simple look at how riders have achieved vs starting average. Have divided into 5 categories: A: Strong overperfomers - those who have maintained or improved their starting average B:Overperformers : those who have dropped their average by 10% or less C: Average performers: Those who have dropped their average by 10-20% D:Under performers: Those who have dropped their averages by 20-30% E: Massive underperformers: Those who have dropped their average by more than 30% AVERAGES GSA St Ave Ratio Ellis Perks 4.16 2.32 1.79 Zach Wajtkecht 3.49 2.56 1.36 James Shanes 2.57 2.00 1.29 Kai Huckenbeck 6.29 5.04 1.25 Rory Schlein 8.49 7.17 1.18 Brady Kurtz 8.76 7.63 1.15 Mark Riss 4.52 4.00 1.13 Kenneth Bjerre 9.22 8.22 1.12 Cameron Heeps 5.67 5.07 1.12 Daniel Bewley 4.32 3.09 1.11 Joshua Bates 5.47 5.02 1.09 A Nathan Greaves 2.17 2 1.09 A Nicolai Klindt 5.78 5.42 1.07 A Troy Batchelor 7.79 7.36 1.06 A Charles Wright 6.83 6.59 1.04 A Richard Lawson 8.29 8.17 1.01 A Nicholas Morris 8.98 8.97 1.00 A Jack Smith 2 2 1.00 A Fredrik Lindgren 10.04 10.09 1.00 A David Bellego 7.42 7.63 0.97 b Lewis Rose 5.5 5.8 0.95 b Kyle Howarth 6.76 7.18 0.94 b Danny Ayres 3.26 3.56 0.92 b Samuel Masters 8.08 8.88 0.91 b Jack Holder 6.22 7.16 0.87 C Chris Harris 8 9.21 0.87 C Jan Graversen 3.47 4 0.87 C Robert Lambert 7.59 8.76 0.87 C Jacob Thorssell 8.53 9.88 0.86 C Craig Cook 8.47 9.88 0.86 C Danny Ayres 3.02 3.56 0.85 C Jake Allen 5.03 5.96 0.84 C Hans Andersen 8.37 10.01 0.84 C Patrick Hougaard 7.26 8.71 0.83 C Kim Nilsson 7.76 9.63 0.81 C Josh Grajczonek 7.14 8.9 0.80 C Stuart Robson 5.67 7.09 0.80 C Ricky Wells 6.29 7.92 0.79 D Lewis Kerr 4.87 6.16 0.79 D Paul Starke 5.18 6.62 0.78 D Lasse Bjerre 5.11 6.64 0.77 D Justin Sedgmen 5.84 7.6 0.77 D Steven Worrall 6.5 8.51 0.76 D Scott Nicholls 7.02 9.23 0.76 D Emil Gröndal 3.24 4.39 0.74 D Erik Riss 5.02 6.85 0.73 D Edward Kennett 6.79 9.27 0.73 D Max Fricke 7.25 9.91 0.73 D Jason Doyle 9.75 13.41 0.73 D Robert Branford 3.29 4.6 0.72 D Nicklas Porsing 4.69 6.58 0.71 D Dany Gappmaier 2.8 4 0.70 D Bradley Wilson-Dean 3.46 5.02 0.69 E Daniel King 6.16 9.57 0.64 E Lewis Kerr 3.82 6.16 0.62 E Josh Bailey 1.22 2 0.61 E Chris Holder 7.43 12.53 0.59 E Rohan Tungate 5.27 9.03 0.58 E Jason Garrity 4.92 8.55 0.58 E Kacper Gomolski 4.2 7.71 0.54 E Krzysztof Kasprzak 5.95 11.08 0.54 E Adam Ellis 4.17 7.8 0.53 E Kyle Newman 3.3 6.31 0.52 E Grzegorz Zengota 4.92 10.91 0.45 E Max Clegg 1.75 4.04 0.43 E Adam Skornicki 3 7.22 0.42 E David Watt 2.86 7.56 0.38 E The strongest possible team you could have named would line up: Lindgren, Schlein, Kurtz, Morris, Bjerre, Huckenbeck, Perks, who have a combined GSA of around 56 points, and would average around 61 points per meeting (assuming 5 riders to Freddie, Kenny and Kai, with PErks taking only 3 rides) Had to scroll a long way down to find KK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perton Wolf 396 Posted July 14, 2017 Schlein has been Wolves' best rider away from home since joining so no surprise to see him high up there. It's also not a surprise that he's picked up a Polish club now too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted July 14, 2017 Bellego has been one of the signing of the seasons and only a B? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,625 Posted July 14, 2017 Bellego has been one of the signing of the seasons and only a B? And try telling Belle Vue fans that BWD is an 'e' 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted July 14, 2017 And try telling Belle Vue fans that BWD is an 'e' Speedway, don't you love how we can have all the stats we like but there always riders who just ignore them and do what the hell they want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted July 15, 2017 Bellego has been one of the signing of the seasons and only a B?He's considered one of the signings of the season because everyone assumed he'd drop his average by a couple of points and he has dropped by far less. Need to remember that he was on a higher starting average than the likes of batch and schlein. And try telling Belle Vue fans that BWD is an 'e'As a kiwi aces fan I wasn't sure whether to be ecstatic or annoyed about that display! First kiwi to score a max at bells vue since Larry Ross? I'd also note that the averages font reflect any adjustment for riding as 2nd string vs reserve. And that display has likely pushed him up to a "d" 😅 Had to scroll a long way down to find KK.I'd have assumed anyone looking for kk would have started at the bottom of the list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keef robin 551 Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Performance of the year...Bradley Wilson-Dean at Belle Vue, a max after scoring 1 the previous night. For me Bellego signing of the season, was brilliant against Belle Vue, untouchable. Edited July 15, 2017 by beefy keefy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
