Poole 2018

[tellboy 3,658]

1 hour ago, INCOGNITO said:

All riders that have appeared in the Grand Prix Series in the last three seasons and those riding in 2018 that did NOT appear here in 2017 will be given a 9.00 assessed average. 

 

This includes Woffinden, Zagar, Lindback, Pawlicki etc but doesn't include Chris Holder 7.16 as he rode here while Lindgren keeps his 9.29 average and Doyle his 9.69. Iversen will be 9.00 as his previous average was just short of nine.

Pretty sure Iversen attained a 9.04 average.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695]

12 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Pretty sure Iversen attained a 9.04 average.

And it was still a bit closer to being accurate than the first paragraph

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

2 hours ago, INCOGNITO said:

The one rule that does seem to have been forgotten is a rider coming to Britain that has achieved a certain average (6.00) in either the Swedish or Polish top division is assessed at 7.00 however Woryna keeps his 4.65 average from 2016 despite reaching an average just under eight for Rybnik which was higher than Doyle, Woffinden, Holder and Hancock. 

Despite winning the Gold Medal as a member of the World U21 SWC and the fact Coventry failed to start in 2017 (even though he wasn't signed) and he was at reserve in Poland (one easy race only) they have managed to keep his 2016 average

The reason he wasn’t signed by Horton for the 2017 season was because Mick Horton didn’t rate him. 

[Booey boy 123]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

The reason he wasn’t signed by Horton for the 2017 season was because Mick Horton didn’t rate him. 

Or there was a deal Horton used him in 2016 and didn't use him in 2017 so Ford got him on a nice average? 

[NeilWatson 1,988]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

The reason he wasn’t signed by Horton for the 2017 season was because Mick Horton didn’t rate him. 

Way off the mark Steve!

5 minutes ago, Booey boy said:

Or there was a deal Horton used him in 2016 and didn't use him in 2017 so Ford got him on a nice average? 

Even further off the mark

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

Hi Neil merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family.

so if I am way off the mark, what is the mark?

[NeilWatson 1,988]

39 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Hi Neil merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family.

so if I am way off the mark, what is the mark?

Happy Christmas Steve. The putative 2017 Bees team was built to include UK based riders only.

[Crazy robin 2,963]

50 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

Happy Christmas Steve. The putative 2017 Bees team was built to include UK based riders only.

So yet again Steve is proved to post the wrong information as clearly you  would know the truth.

Yet again when the clowns had a chance to clear up all these averages they failed miserably.

Swindon should never have been able to sign Tobias on the average they got him on last season & he was massive in helping us win the league.

The same thing will happen with Kacper at Poole.

They really couldn’t decide a fair way at their AGM if their life’s depending on it.

[Gemini 4,894]

3 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

Happy Christmas Steve. The putative 2017 Bees team was built to include UK based riders only.

Tell you what Neil I aren't half learning some new words on here lately so I'm really grateful for your posts.

[g13webb 4,254]

16 hours ago, INCOGNITO said:

The one rule that does seem to have been forgotten is a rider coming to Britain that has achieved a certain average (6.00) in either the Swedish or Polish top division is assessed at 7.00 however Woryna keeps his 4.65 average from 2016 despite reaching an average just under eight for Rybnik which was higher than Doyle, Woffinden, Holder and Hancock. 

Despite winning the Gold Medal as a member of the World U21 SWC and the fact Coventry failed to start in 2017 (even though he wasn't signed) and he was at reserve in Poland (one easy race only) they have managed to keep his 2016 average

We moan about all the fans leaving, and the sustainability of the sport,     but this one rule  highlights all the problems that are ingrained within the sport.   Everyman and his dog knows that Woryna is a quality rider and his 4.65 is outdated insult of his ability, yet the powers do nothing about it.  

This sport will never be taken seriously, until them who govern,  make  rules equal and fair.    

NB...     Why don't they put all the ringers in one team,  to drive all the fans away once and for all.............    

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

Funny that in a space of a couple of weeks since that announcement of Woryna and Spanner, we have gone from “meh” and “uninspired signings”,  “really mediocre”,  “what a rubbish looking team”, “Poole have thrown the towel in again”, “Kennett and Lahti would have been better signings”, to “huge ringers” and Worynas average “an insult to his ability”.

Woryna got his average by riding in this league. He has improved abroad but will that equate to a higher average here?

We don’t really know how these two will do, though I hope they both do exceptionally well and score a bucket load for us.  

 

Edited December 27, 2017 by Steve Shovlar

[g13webb 4,254]

9 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Funny that in a space of a couple of weeks since that announcement of Woryna and Spanner, we have gone from “meh” and “uninspired signings”, to “huge ringers” and Worynas average “an insult to his ability”. Woryna got his average by riding in this league. He has improved abroad but will that equate to a higher average here?

We don’t really know how these two will do, though I hope they both do exceptionally well and score a bucket load for us.  

 

 I've got no problem with any of Poole signings'  providing they have accurate averages,  as the same as everyone else, but please don't insult our integrity  with your one sided comments.   To put a finer comparison  on Woryna's ability  he is of similar class to that of Lambert, whom he has beaten more times when they have met... So this is not a gamble ,  more like a backhanded gift from all the other blinded Promoters...

[tellboy 3,658]

21 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

 

Woryna got his average by riding in this league. He has improved abroad but will that equate to a higher average here?

We don’t really know how these two will do, though I hope they both do exceptionally well and score a bucket load for us.  

 

So why did you moan so much when Woffinden returned to Wolves when he got his average from riding in this league.

You puzzle me Steve because you will always seem to think it's alright for Poole to sign riders on these sort of averages,but as soon as any other team want to do it it becomes unfair

[Grachan 7,314]

24 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Funny that in a space of a couple of weeks since that announcement of Woryna and Spanner, we have gone from “meh” and “uninspired signings”,  “really mediocre”,  “what a rubbish looking team”, “Poole have thrown the towel in again”, “Kennett and Lahti would have been better signings”, to “huge ringers” and Worynas average “an insult to his ability”.

Woryna got his average by riding in this league. He has improved abroad but will that equate to a higher average here?

We don’t really know how these two will do, though I hope they both do exceptionally well and score a bucket load for us.  

 

He didn't get his average riding in this league. He got his average riding in the Elite League, which was a stronger league than this one.

It does seem strange, though, that he is not being reassessed while other riders are. Part of a pay-off to get Poole to vote for the one-over-eight rule perhaps?

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

Think its clear who voted for one over eight, looking at the way certain teams are being built on a tiny budget.

Having said that, if two or three teams said they refuse to come to tapes in 2018 if that rule isn’t implemented, they have the rest of the clubs over a barrel.