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11 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

True. He isn't a number one anymore but still more than capable of adding a bit more. 

He is for Poole this season and some on here think he will beat Nick Morris, very unlikely. 

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19 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I watched it and yes he fluffed the final. But really he could have laid it down in heat 20 and become Champ. In heat 20 Tv clearly showed Tungate touch the tapes, but the ref didn’t exclude him. In the rerun Tungate took a leaf straight out of NP’s book, took two looks, then battered into the side of Kurtz on lap 2 going down the straight. Kurtz somehow managed to stay on but his hand came off the handlebars and he could easily have fallen. Crump said in commentary that Kurtz did remarkably well to regain control. A lay down would have meant Tungate excluded and Kurtz as Champ.

A very good meeting to watch and the streaming was excellent overall. I would certainly subscribe to a British version of this if there was no TV deal.

 

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kurtz clearly fell on his own in is 2nd ride campton no where near him but was put back in re-run !! so swings and roundabouts tungate hard but fair & tungate a worthy winner not bad for a Aces 2nd string :lol:

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45 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

kurtz clearly fell on his own in is 2nd ride campton no where near him but was put back in re-run !! so swings and roundabouts tungate hard but fair & tungate a worthy winner not bad for a Aces 2nd string :lol:

No Campton was nowhere near him. Agreed. It was Jack Holder. They touched on the apex and Kurtz came off. Fair call to rerun.

Heat 20 Tungate clearly touched the tapes. Should have been out but ref bottled it. In rerun Tungate was far from hard but fair. If it had been on TV no one would have said the move fair. If he had done that to Kildemand you would know what would have happened. Kurtz should have just laid it down. It was a dirty move, premeditated as he looked twice to see where Kurtz was before piling into him.

 

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if's ? but's ? maybe's ? if our play/off semi-final had been on tv lindgren would have been exc for sure & who knows what the final result would have been ? so lets go for FACTS kurtz bottled another final !!! we got beat in play/off semi final and a Aces 2nd string is a well deserved 2018 Aussie champ :lol::lol: remember gogglegate with newman another rule that the referee clearly forgot what goes around comes around !! mind that lump in your throat :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Just as well Brady rides the UK tracks a lot better then - as his higher average proves.:D

I seem to remember Rohan couldn't hack it as a Number 1 and had to settle for a 6.18 2nd string role!!!;)

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10 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

if's ? but's ? maybe's ? if our play/off semi-final had been on tv lindgren would have been exc for sure & who knows what the final result would have been ? so lets go for FACTS kurtz bottled another final !!! we got beat in play/off semi final and a Aces 2nd string is a well deserved 2018 Aussie champ :lol::lol: remember gogglegate with newman another rule that the referee clearly forgot what goes around comes around !! mind that lump in your throat :rolleyes::rolleyes:

How strange that a “new” poster makes these comments. It leads one to think he is someone in disguise.

But regardless of that, there’s a thread in the international speedway section for the Aussie championships. It is an individual comp so very little to do with cluttering up the Poole threads. If you are a Belle Vue fan go celebrate Tungates win over there and leave this part so we can discuss just how good the 2018 Pirates team is shaping up.

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6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Just as well Brady rides the UK tracks a lot better then - as his higher average proves.:D

Much as it would have been good for Brady to have won the championship, and frustrating as it is that he did blow it in 4 finals, ultimately it doesn't mean too much as hopefully he is now qualified for the Speedway GP Qualifiers for the coming  season as runner up.

I think better to assess Brady's improvement (or lack of) come the end of 2018 after he has ridden the season for Poole/Leszno/Sweden and whatever individual qualifiers he participates in. Only then we can say if his development is still going forward (which hopefully it will be).

Similar can be said for Jack Holder who did well to win 2 rounds and if he moves forward in UK & POL in 2018 then I am sure Matt Ford will have him back if possible for 2019.

Tungate has done very well since he appeared unbeaten in the rides he took in the Aussie GP, and has been in great form since in individual tournaments and also overall in the Aussie Champ. Can he bring that form back to UK and POL/SWE ?? - Will be interesting to see if he could be another Aussie late developer or if he reverts back to his form of the last few seasons.

Cant take anything away from Tungate in the Aussie series and yes, Brady needs to overcome this final blow out that crept in this series. BUT lets all remember he was only 21 in September and plenty of time to build up the mental strength to handle these situations. He is developing well for a rider so young so lets concentrate on the positives as he irons out those minor negatives. I think most know who will probably be the better rider of the two long term ;-)

Lets not keep making the comparison to say Darcy Ward, and let the guy develop at a rate comfortable to him without having that great weight hung around his neck.

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2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

So Tungate simply wanted it more then and done what was needed - it was to decide a National Championship after all.

The ref obviously didnt see it as unfair and you roll the dice and take the odds

Ref's nearly always let it go unless a riders goes down.

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18 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

How strange that a “new” poster makes these comments. It leads one to think he is someone in disguise.

But regardless of that, there’s a thread in the international speedway section for the Aussie championships. It is an individual comp so very little to do with cluttering up the Poole threads. If you are a Belle Vue fan go celebrate Tungates win over there and leave this part so we can discuss just how good the 2018 Pirates team is shaping up.

oh how suspicious the pie-rats get pmsl truth hurts sometimes pmsl i'll tell you how it's shaping up ? the normal way getting riders on wrong averages that's how but fans of other teams are used to that pmsl so why didn't you post on the individual thread ????? pmsl ah well it's always great to see the pie-rats already getting their kleenex tissues out pmsl 

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1 hour ago, A ORLOV said:

He is for Poole this season and some on here think he will beat Nick Morris, very unlikely. 

Stevebrum was talking about Hans

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4 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Stevebrum was talking about Hans

But earlier SS was on about N Morris not being as good as him.

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11 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

oh how suspicious the pie-rats get pmsl truth hurts sometimes pmsl i'll tell you how it's shaping up ? the normal way getting riders on wrong averages that's how but fans of other teams are used to that pmsl so why didn't you post on the individual thread ????? pmsl ah well it's always great to see the pie-rats already getting their kleenex tissues out pmsl 

Yes, you are a former poster! The pie-rats gives it away, can't remember the name though... Trackrat, was it??! 

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13 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

oh how suspicious the pie-rats get pmsl truth hurts sometimes pmsl i'll tell you how it's shaping up ? the normal way getting riders on wrong averages that's how but fans of other teams are used to that pmsl so why didn't you post on the individual thread ????? pmsl ah well it's always great to see the pie-rats already getting their kleenex tissues out pmsl 

You have gone through several pairs of pants there. Your missus will be wondering what that other rancid smell is. 

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