Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Particularly not fair, right or consistent when Gordon Pairman tells us that the BSPA reduced Jonsson's average when he came back to the UK because he was no longer the rider he had been. The consistent application of the rules would result in averages being increased for riders who have clearly improved since their last time in the UK and that is what should have happened. Of course you have to be capable of viewing things objectively rather than just subjectively to understand the harm this sort of inconsistency does to the credibility of the sport. Moan about the bspa mc then and take it off the Poole thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted April 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Moan about the bspa mc then and take it off the Poole thread. Gordon Pairman made the comment in this thread and it relates to two riders in the current Poole team so it seems entirely relevant to make comments about it in this thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Gordon Pairman made the comment in this thread and it relates to two riders in the current Poole team so it seems entirely relevant to make comments about it in this thread. So a couple of promoters have got caught out telling fibs to cover the reason certain riders were not signed. The trutch has now come out. End of story. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,690 Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So a couple of promoters have got caught out telling fibs to cover the reason certain riders were not signed. The trutch has now come out. End of story. I do hope that wasn't too painful. Was it something you ate ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Steve, give it a rest mate. I most certainly will not, it's unimportant to me who it affects or benefits. How you can have a rider on his old average who rode in 9 GP's whilst others are saddled with a 9??? Just disgraceful. It's the BSPA who are at fault here not one club. 5 hours ago, Arthur Fry said: keep going on about it won't change anything, bspa make the rules not Poole That's why I'm going on about it, transparency is the only thing most speedway fans. I couldn't care less which thread it is on. The BSPA have completely messed up the rules on averages yet again. 3 hours ago, scaramanga said: if im not wrong didnt kildermand ride in brittan last year ? sure he did a few meetings for someone probaly not enough to change his average but might just qualify that way You are wrong, he didn't ride in Britain in 2017. 38 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So a couple of promoters have got caught out telling fibs to cover the reason certain riders were not signed. The trutch has now come out. End of story. Care to quote the truthful story?? All I've seen and heard are posts from a former promoter saying no such rules existed whilst 2 others have spoken out saying there was. There is no truthful story. Just opinions. Of course if you can quote me this story then I'm only happy to read it. Edited April 2, 2018 by stevebrum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 902 Posted April 2, 2018 time must fly by i was sure he did a short stink as cover for someone must have been the year before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stevebrum said: That's why I'm going on about it, transparency is the only thing most speedway fans. I couldn't care less which thread it is on. The BSPA have completely messed up the rules on averages yet again. You are wrong, he didn't ride in Britain in 2017. Care to quote the truthful story?? All I've seen and heard are posts from a former promoter saying no such rules existed whilst 2 others have spoken out saying there was. There is no truthful story. Just opinions. Of course if you can quote me this story then I'm only happy to read it. Which 'former promoter' are you referring to? If its Gordon Pairman then he is a current co-promoter who also serves on the Speedway Control Bureau - so I guess he should know the truth!! Edited April 2, 2018 by Skidder1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, scaramanga said: time must fly by i was sure he did a short stink as cover for someone must have been the year before Last rode here in 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Skidder1 said: Which 'former promoter' are you referring to? If its Gordon Pairman then he is a current co-promoter who also serves on the Speedway Control Bureau - so I guess he should know the truth!! And CVS knows the truth. One of them is either lying or both are unclear if it's a rule of not. So there is no such thing as 'the truth'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 902 Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, stevebrum said: And CVS knows the truth. One of them is either lying or both are unclear if it's a rule of not. So there is no such thing as 'the truth'. not in speedway there isnt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted April 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, stevebrum said: And CVS knows the truth. One of them is either lying or both are unclear if it's a rule of not. So there is no such thing as 'the truth'. But there's no mention in the rules!!!!! Fair enough if it was discussed at the AGM - but you'll be telling me next that every promoter attended every AGM session?! BTW I didn't think CVS attended the AGM due to his illness/treatment! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,778 Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Moan about the bspa mc then and take it off the Poole thread. Who made you boss? Discussions develop where they develop, so tough breast. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted April 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: But there's no mention in the rules!!!!! Fair enough if it was discussed at the AGM - but you'll be telling me next that every promoter attended every AGM session?! BTW I didn't think CVS attended the AGM due to his illness/treatment! Peter Adams went. Ard you suggesting he lied to CVS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted April 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: But there's no mention in the rules!!!!! Fair enough if it was discussed at the AGM - but you'll be telling me next that every promoter attended every AGM session?! BTW I didn't think CVS attended the AGM due to his illness/treatment! It wasn’t discussed at the AGM. It surfaced following Zagar’s tweet about returning at the end of November. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, ouch said: It wasn’t discussed at the AGM. It surfaced following Zagar’s tweet about returning at the end of November. Havnt you got your own thread to go to... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites