Aces51 2,778 Posted March 21, 2018 Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWP 320 Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. I agree - has BSPA agreed Kildemand can ride for Poole. Good but craft move by Ford to replace a 7pt rider with a 9pt one and still be within limit. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalterPlinge 657 Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. If Kildemand is allowed to sign for Poole then the sport is really bent. As you say Zagar wasn't allowed to return on a 2016 average because he rode in GPs. Anyone can clearly see then that Kildemand, in exactly the same posiion, can't be allowed to return on a (even older) 2015 average. It has to be 9.00 If Kildemand is allowed to ride, then Zagar should sue the SCB as he had an offer of a team place on 7.48 which was withdrawn when he was saddled with a 9.00 average for the exact same reasons that should apply to Kildemand. P.s. Is Holder's work permit expected to be granted in a few weeks, or is he out for the season now? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted March 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, rebelwonderkid said: They can't use Kildermand can they? Didn't they bring in a rule GP riders who missed last season would be reassessed to a 9.00 exactly like NKI? and zagar !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted March 21, 2018 How does that work, they can't use PK as a guest as he's not in a declared 1-7 and if and when Holder decides to return if PK hasn't increased his average to 7.16 or over they will have to redeclare and by then his average may not fit.confused!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: If Kildemand is allowed to sign for Poole then the sport is really bent. As you say Zagar wasn't allowed to return on a 2016 average because he rode in GPs. Anyone can clearly see then that Kildemand, in exactly the same posiion, can't be allowed to return on a (even older) 2015 average. It has to be 9.00 If Kildemand is allowed to ride, then Zagar should sue the SCB as he had an offer of a team place on 7.48 which was withdrawn when he was saddled with a 9.00 average for the exact same reasons that should apply to Kildemand. P.s. Is Holder's work permit expected to be granted in a few weeks, or is he out for the season now? I imagine Holder is out to sort out stuff with Max first and his Poland visa issues. Your not going to come to P and P unless he plans to ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted March 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. correct let's see if the pikey pie - rats get away with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWP 320 Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, geoff58 said: correct let's see if the pikey pie - rats get away with it It’s Poole of course they will lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Could it be a technicality as Kildermand was a replacement GP rider due to injury to Nicki etc and not a qualified 1-15 rider. Several riders had wild cards for one GP. Does that make them a 9pt rider too like Cooky at Cardiff. Of course not. Edited March 21, 2018 by Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted March 21, 2018 From what I’ve just been told. Killer isn’t classed as a GP rider due to his reserve status. And his average fits because Poole still had about 0.4ish point left!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted March 21, 2018 So your agreeing with me from the post above. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRacer 84 Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, poolebolton said: From what I’ve just been told. Killer isn’t classed as a GP rider due to his reserve status. And his average fits because Poole still had about 0.4ish point left!!! Business as usual when it comes to Poole and the BSPA. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anzum 250 Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mark said: Could it be a technicality as Kildermand was a replacement GP rider due to injury to Nicki etc and not a qualified 1-15 rider. Several riders had wild cards for one GP. Does that make them a 9pt rider too like Cooky at Cardiff. Of course not. The rules are being made up as they go. How is Vaculik on a 8? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted March 21, 2018 A rider who races in 9 GP's and finishes 13th is a GP rider by any realistic definition. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mark said: So your agreeing with me from the post above. Yes, just been told that from someone there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
