PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 28, 2017 If that is what is on offer than not worth doing in my opinion. No point having GP riders racing against conference league reserves. AGREE ... and it's not just the SGP riders themselves but the equipment they possess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theboss 727 Posted October 28, 2017 AGREE ... and it's not just the SGP riders themselves but the equipment they possess Which creates a never ending spiral of costs for riders who should be amateur or semi pro at best. Sport in UK needs to go back to basics and rebuild again. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) BT have been pleased with viewing figures for both the SGP and the PL. No doubt they are keen to continue in 2018 but depends what sort of deal the BSPA are prepared to accept. My guess would be that if BT pick up the cost of production and pay a meeting fee, perhaps £10,000, the BSPA will bite their hand off. As well they should. Just curious but how do BT know how many watch any particular match? Edited October 28, 2017 by RS50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 29, 2017 FIGURES for terrestrial TV (BBC, ITV, etc) are calculated by information gathered from a few thousand people whose choice of programmes are regularly monitored. Probably about as reliable as an opinion poll. Viewers watching via Sky or BT boxes, for example, can be calculated far more accurately. For example: if you call Sky with a problem they can tell what you are watching. Cannot do that with terrestrial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted October 29, 2017 Which creates a never ending spiral of costs for riders who should be amateur or semi pro at best. Sport in UK needs to go back to basics and rebuild again. Wouldn't the same spiralling costs exist if the sport is amateur or semi-professional? All it takes is a handful of affluent riders or owners with deep pockets and the arms race continues unabated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted October 29, 2017 If that is what is on offer than not worth doing in my opinion. No point having GP riders racing against conference league reserves. Why? It used to happen on a regular basis when the sport had much bigger crowds. AGREE ... and it's not just the SGP riders themselves but the equipment they possess Again... I don't remember the outcry when Hans Nielsen was lining up against David Haynes or Andy Sumner in 80's/90's. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted October 29, 2017 Why? It used to happen on a regular basis when the sport had much bigger crowds. Again... I don't remember the outcry when Hans Nielsen was lining up against David Haynes or Andy Sumner in 80's/90's. Spot on. And teams were a lot less even in the good old days too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted October 29, 2017 Even if BT cover costs it's best to have them in place than nothing at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Does it really matter how BT get their audience figures? If they are happy then that is surely a big plus to start negotiations. Rather than clubs relying on some sort of TV cash pay out they should be concentrating on using TV to get more (and get more out of) corporate sponsorship, which in turn should benefit riders as well as the clubs. Edited October 29, 2017 by Skidder1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695 Posted October 29, 2017 Does it really matter how BT get their audience figures? If they are happy then that is surely a big plus to start negotiations. Rather than clubs relying on some sort of TV cash pay out they should be concentrating on using TV to get more (and get more out of) corporate sponsorship, which in turn should benefit riders as well as the clubs. and perhaps try to persuade them to divert their contributions into different directions away from long standing loyal recipients? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted October 29, 2017 British Superbike use Eurosport in this way extremely well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinmauger 584 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) FIGURES for terrestrial TV (BBC, ITV, etc) are calculated by information gathered from a few thousand people whose choice of programmes are regularly monitored. Probably about as reliable as an opinion poll. I think such figures should be taken wih a wee pinch of salt. I mean how many times have we visited folk, or had folk pop round to see us, and the TV is on in the background beacuse no-one has turned over or choose to watch something else whilst folk catch up with gossip, make plans to go out, or choose watch something else like a DVD or a film? So the TV was tuned to a particular channel for, say, the evening news but no-one is actually watching anymore.... Edited October 30, 2017 by Martin Mauger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,982 Posted October 30, 2017 FIGURES for terrestrial TV (BBC, ITV, etc) are calculated by information gathered from a few thousand people whose choice of programmes are regularly monitored. Probably about as reliable as an opinion poll. Viewers watching via Sky or BT boxes, for example, can be calculated far more accurately. For example: if you call Sky with a problem they can tell what you are watching. Cannot do that with terrestrial. I wonder how many people they've come across who've had problems accessing those channels for the more discerning gentleman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keef robin 551 Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) How many screens have these gents come across. Edited November 2, 2017 by beefy keefy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttons 370 Posted November 5, 2017 Steve Shovlar on the Poole thread stating no more coverage of league racing!! anyone know if that is correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
