mikebv 10,273 Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Makes the situation even more stupid. The regs dont allow the pussycats to give permission for Bomber to ride at BV but apparently have no power to stop such permission for a rider to go off to Poland Will be completely farcical when it is called off at Peterborough (99% chance with weather forecast) and Bomber even if he has time to travel wont be allowed to take his place as R/R has been announced Tonight's meeting is a perfect example of why the Play Offs were designed in that instead of it being a 'dead rubber' late in the Season which could result in a poor crowd, it now becomes almost 'pivotal' as to who gets those important second and fourth places. A meeting that actually 'means something' and one which can be marketed as such... So what do the Promoters of the Sport do? Render it alongside other farces by allowing key members of both teams to miss this 'pivotal' meeting to ride elsewhere... Its a simple conclusion to reach therefore that says if 'they' don't see a meeting such as this 'important enough' to run 'properly' then why should the fans treat it as 'important enough' to attend? I truly now believe that (in this Country) the Promoters have simply 'given up', and accepted that years and years of leaderless, no direction, make it up as you go along, decision making has rendered the Sport 'beyond repair' and now just 'wing it' the best they can on a daily basis to (hopefully with a good wind) complete a ridiculously disjointed fixture list.., Hope they can find a couple of guests for me and my lad tonight to replace the cash I would have spent.... Or maybe a FR (Fan Replacement) Facilty will be granted...😉😲 Edited August 30, 2017 by mikebv 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted August 30, 2017 Makes the situation even more stupid. The regs dont allow the pussycats to give permission for Bomber to ride at BV but apparently have no power to stop such permission for a rider to go off to Poland Will be completely farcical when it is called off at Peterborough (99% chance with weather forecast) and Bomber even if he has time to travel wont be allowed to take his place as R/R has been announced I'm sure there has been instances where a rider rode for his other team after a postponement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shockster 400 Posted August 30, 2017 SpeedwayGB website this morning says Lasse Bjerre guesting for Belle Vue and not Charles Wright. RR for Fricke & Harris. Pity it's not full teams but should be a close match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted August 30, 2017 mikebv wrote" I truly now believe that (in this Country) the Promoters have simply 'given up', and accepted that years and years of leaderless, no direction, make it up as you go along, decision making has rendered the Sport 'beyond repair' and now just 'wing it' the best they can on a daily basis to (hopefully with a good wind) complete a ridiculously disjointed fixture list" And that is how I also see it and is why I am about to walk away from the sport live in the stadium and settle for watching it much more cheaply ( not quite free ) live at home on TV. The GP is still truly competitive and well worth watching but the Premier League matches are 75% dross and FTG "races". The promoters will continue to "wing it" until there is no-on left on the terraces to watch it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedwaycrazy 71 Posted August 30, 2017 Makes the situation even more stupid. The regs dont allow the pussycats to give permission for Bomber to ride at BV but apparently have no power to stop such permission for a rider to go off to Poland Will be completely farcical when it is called off at Peterborough (99% chance with weather forecast) and Bomber even if he has time to travel wont be allowed to take his place as R/R has been announced Does it say in the rules that if R/R is announced Harris cannot subsequently ride if Peterborough is rained off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted August 30, 2017 Bewley and Smith were available to ride for The Colts at Birmingham once Poole was called off. Brummies subsequently got rained off but I think it can and should be allowed. The only times there's an issue is if a guest has been booked and it's unfair on them to ditch them at the last minute. I remember Sam Masters enjoying a free meal at NSS whilst watching his guest replacement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Does it say in the rules that if R/R is announced Harris cannot subsequently ride if Peterborough is rained off... I am sure that on previous occasions that a d/u rider has suddenly changed who he rides for if one meeting is rained off but not sure if second club had announced guest or r/r. Edited August 30, 2017 by A ORLOV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) If Peterborough is off then hopefully Worrall and Harris will ride. I'm sure supporters of both teams would prefer to see their own riders. Could go either way tonight. Rye doing exceptionally well and Aces with question marks over Kenneth Bjerre's recent poor performances, Tungate who had two falls in Sweden last night, he says he is feeling sh*t but hoping to be OK for tonight and Bewley who has a groin injury. If our guest is now Lasse Bjerre, he was tremendous for Leicester on their recent visit so let's hope he can repeat that performance as we need the top 4 to do well to get a decent score from Fricke's rides. I'm an optimist so Bjerre's new engines will see him back to his best, Tungate and Bewley will not suffer any ill affects from their injuries and whichever guest we have, Wright or Bjerre will cover Worrall's usual score or, even better, Worral will ride. 48-41 to the Aces. Edited August 30, 2017 by Aces51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,636 Posted August 30, 2017 So is it Lasse Bjerre or Charles Wright guesting?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shockster 400 Posted August 30, 2017 So is it Lasse Bjerre or Charles Wright guesting?? ???? Belle Vue Website says Wright. SpeedwayGB website says Bjerre. Top notch as usual! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted August 30, 2017 ???? Belle Vue Website says Wright. SpeedwayGB website says Bjerre. Top notch as usual! Belle vue deleted there tweet saying it was Wright so assume it's deffo bjerre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,636 Posted August 30, 2017 Still says Wright on their website meeting preview?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted August 30, 2017 So if Peterborough is rained off.... and Rye can't go back on their announcement to use RR... can Chris Harris guest for BV? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruckerroo 792 Posted August 30, 2017 Peterboro gave up in theyre league for cash and cash only. Bomber should ride for the rockets tonight as theyve more to ride for 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone 943 Posted August 30, 2017 What appears to be overlooked was that as the Peterborough vs Newcastle fixture was already logged before the Belle Vue vs Rye House fixture, you would assume that both BV & Rye were fully aware of this and that Worrall & Harris would be engaged elsewhere. If you intend going to Awalton tonight, would you just accept that messrs Harris & Worrall would be missing, despite this fixture having priority for their services over the Belle Vue fixture? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
