Newcastle V Redcar 3/9/17

[Dandelion 775]

I think so yes.

Thanks for the information, enjoy your night Are the Gems riding too?

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695]

To be fair it's difficult to argue against that.

The one point may be whether the denial of facility is for riding elsewhere or the intention to ride elsewhere when the teams are declared

[northyorksbear 610]

I would assume as Newcastle have named their team without Lambert then they wouldn't be able to then include him, but you never know!

 

On the issue of a rider missing a league meeting to ride elsewhere I don't see there is any problem with a team doing this if they wish to it just means they are understrength and have to justify actions to their fans. To compare this situation to Peterborough is totally wrong Panthers went against a direct BSPA ruling and then decided to virtually brag about the compensation they received to do it.

[New era Panthers 2,055]

I would assume as Newcastle have named their team without Lambert then they wouldn't be able to then include him, but you never know!

 

On the issue of a rider missing a league meeting to ride elsewhere I don't see there is any problem with a team doing this if they wish to it just means they are understrength and have to justify actions to their fans. To compare this situation to Peterborough is totally wrong Panthers went against a direct BSPA ruling and then decided to virtually brag about the compensation they received to do it.

Nothing has actually been mentioned about what any form of compensation was offered other than it could be a good deal for Peterborough speedway , so I don't see where they were bragging about it , loads of rumours have been put on this site but nothing as been stated about what actual incentive was involved .

[NJC71 388]

Was thinking of making a rare trip to Brough tonight but having seen the team I'll give it a miss. Whatever the rights and wrongs it is a joke having a young lad who has ridden only a handful of matches at National League level, riding at number 1. It's not fair on the lad and particularly unfair on the paying public who are being short changed yet again.

 

I have been watching the Diamonds since the late 80's and this is definitely the worst state I can recall the sport being in. I have watched the Elite League decline year on year but the PL (or whatever it's called now) has generally been a solid product with a good variety of teams across England, Scotland and sometimes Wales and dedicated riders who were either established at that level or were exciting youngsters on their way up.

 

Now the PL/Championship is in as just as bad - possibly even worse - state than the former EL was/is. We have too few teams and no variety and doubling up is killing the league with teams turning up with endless guests and facilities. 7 v 7 and no guests is an increasingly rare event. As a result teams have no identity anymore. Throw in the dismal state of many of the tracks, the ageing stadia and paltry facilities and it's no wonder crowds are at an all time low.

 

I seriously don't know if speedway has a future in this country and honestly believe we are not far from it becoming an amateur sport at best. Sad to see.

Edited September 3, 2017 by NJC71

[northyorksbear 610]

Nothing has actually been mentioned about what any form of compensation was offered other than it could be a good deal for Peterborough speedway , so I don't see where they were bragging about it , loads of rumours have been put on this site but nothing as been stated about what actual incentive was involved .

As you say nothing has been confirmed about what the incentive was, however it was provided on the proviso that Holder was released, therefore it can be deemed as compensation. In my opinion the statement put out was highlighting that it was a good deal for Peterborough speedway and it read to me that the management were congratulating themselves on the deal achieved which, again in my opinion, is bragging about it!

[screm 8,050]

Wouldn't the only way that Newcastle could get a guest facility was to claim Robert Lambert was with holding his services, up side would be the Diamonds get guests, down side is that Lambert would get an automatic ban.

[andys 224]

Was thinking of making a rare trip to Brough tonight but having seen the team I'll give it a miss. Whatever the rights and wrongs it is a joke having a young lad who has ridden only a handful of matches at National League level, riding at number 1. It's not fair on the lad and particularly unfair on the paying public who are being short changed yet again.

 

I have been watching the Diamonds since the late 80's and this is definitely the worst state I can recall the sport being in. I have watched the Elite League decline year on year but the PL (or whatever it's called now) has generally been a solid product with a good variety of teams across England, Scotland and sometimes Wales and dedicated riders who were either established at that level or were exciting youngsters on their way up.

 

Now the PL/Championship is in as just as bad - possibly even worse - state than the former EL was/is. We have too few teams and no variety and doubling up is killing the league with teams turning up with endless guests and facilities. 7 v 7 and no guests is an increasingly rare event. As a result teams have no identity anymore. Throw in the dismal state of many of the tracks, the ageing stadia and paltry facilities and it's no wonder crowds are at an all time low.

 

I seriously don't know if speedway has a future in this country and honestly believe we are not far from it becoming an amateur sport at best. Sad to see.

Unfortunately very few clubs are blessed with millionaire owners who can get stadiums up to scratch, and are in the hands of landlords who just see speedway as a way of paying their running costs each year thru the rent we pay, so where it's everyones choice how they spend there money each Sunday night it'll be those fans staying away who at the end of the day that will close teams down. Robert is missing one match due to other commitments, it's something they, the rule makers, need to look at in the winter but at the moment it is what it is.

[bigcatdiary 3,164]

I would assume as Newcastle have named their team without Lambert then they wouldn't be able to then include him, but you never know!

On the issue of a rider missing a league meeting to ride elsewhere I don't see there is any problem with a team doing this if they wish to it just means they are understrength and have to justify actions to their fans. To compare this situation to Peterborough is totally wrong Panthers went against a direct BSPA ruling and then decided to virtually brag about the compensation they received to do it.

What direct BSPA ruling did Panthers go against.

I would assume as Newcastle have named their team without Lambert then they wouldn't be able to then include him, but you never know!

On the issue of a rider missing a league meeting to ride elsewhere I don't see there is any problem with a team doing this if they wish to it just means they are understrength and have to justify actions to their fans. To compare this situation to Peterborough is totally wrong Panthers went against a direct BSPA ruling and then decided to virtually brag about the compensation they received to do it.

A Referee told me you can change your team up to 1.5 hours prior to the match starting.

[SCB 0]

So if the rider missing is foreign, Newcastle would have got a facility according to the rules. Yet because he's British then Newcastle get no facility.

 

What an effing joke. And they wonder why the sport is on its arse. Robert HAS to ride in Poland but no facility is allowed. Had he been German, French, Swedish etc then it would be claimed his FMN had recalled him in line with the international fixture list and a guest would be allowed.

 

Only in British Speedway can you punish British riders and clubs that sign British riders

[mikebv 10,242]

So if the rider missing is foreign, Newcastle would have got a facility according to the rules. Yet because he's British then Newcastle get no facility.

What an effing joke. And they wonder why the sport is on its arse. Robert HAS to ride in Poland but no facility is allowed. Had he been German, French, Swedish etc then it would be claimed his FMN had recalled him in line with the international fixture list and a guest would be allowed.

Only in British Speedway can you punish British riders and clubs that sign British riders

It is all a bit shambolic Britsh Speedway isn't it?

 

It appears to have a couple of loaded guns pointing permanently at its feet..

 

With post-it notes on the triggers saying "Pull Here"...😨😕

Edited September 3, 2017 by mikebv

[New era Panthers 2,055]

It is all a bit shambolic Britsh Speedway isn't it?

 

It appears to have a loaded gun pointing permanently at its feet...

BSPA have the power but do nothing only to tell you how exciting the new season will be, every year it's the same .

[Arson fire 4,785]

RR for Lambert now?? Deary me

[northyorksbear 610]

What direct BSPA ruling did Panthers go against.

That your top 4 riders comprise your team for the four team finals

[Panthers89 1,922]

What's changed now for the Diamonds to have R/R? Make your mind up BSPA.