SPEEDY69 1,249 Posted January 11, 2019 Harris is known to follow the money so you may be right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigred 187 Posted January 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Skidder1 said: In the Chris Harris interview in this week's Speedway Star, he reckons he is still waiting for payment for 9 meetings for Rye House!! All the team are still owed for 9 meetings and hearing from someone who knows it doesn’t sound like they will be paid anything.the bspa won’t pay them anything and said if they want paying they have to take BMR to court for it. My opinion Rye house should not be allowed to run speedway at any level(even practise days and make money ) until there debts have been settled.It is a complete joke. good look to all the owed riders for 2019. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,164 Posted January 11, 2019 12 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The bond I think may only cover debts to riders at what is regarded as 'standard rates' Concensus seems to be the Rye deals were far from standard It may well be that the riders therefore consider they are still owed for the 9 meetings even if the standard rate has been paid out Just speculation on my part - I have no information or evidence as proof and no knowledge as to whether any payment has been made Of course that’s assuming Rye paid a bond in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,246 Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: Of course that’s assuming Rye paid a bond in the first place. Very good point, the bond can be made up of actual money or assets which everyone knows are effectively worthless except upon paper. Im still surprised the Harris has the cheek to say he was under paid after some of his Rye House efforts, would have thought £2.50 and a packet of wotsits would have covered it. Its beautifully ironic that riders "can't make it pay" so jack up their prices, put clubs out of business and then don't get paid at all (maybe if they weren't so greedy they would still be taking a wage). Also the bspa, the governing body that has the "best interests of speedway" at its heart is determined to keep Rye House closed and see one of the limited speedway venues the country has lost to the sport. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted January 12, 2019 It's not just the debts though is it. Rye House stadium is a mess and needs big investment. Who could afford such an outlay with very little chance of a return on their money. Hoddesdon might be another venue that is consigned to the history books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukie 2 Posted January 24, 2019 keep the faith perhaps buster will buy ryehouse for 2020 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,246 Posted January 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, dukie said: keep the faith perhaps buster will buy ryehouse for 2020 Surely that would make far too much sense. Why save a team from extinction when he can buy a team (Ipswich) that wasn't up for sale. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,645 Posted January 24, 2019 There was a release that all rider's owed were paid out of the bond. Because the rider's were paid out of the bond they can no longer chase the promotion for outstanding debt. Some rumours were that Harris wage worked out more per point that Doyle's Somerset contract, if so, imo Harris was ripping off the Rye House owners and doesn't deserve any outstanding payment. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,050 Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 8:11 AM, SPEEDY69 said: Harris is known to follow the money so you may be right. And who can blame him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,050 Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: There was a release that all rider's owed were paid out of the bond. Because the rider's were paid out of the bond they can no longer chase the promotion for outstanding debt. Some rumours were that Harris wage worked out more per point that Doyle's Somerset contract, if so, imo Harris was ripping off the Rye House owners and doesn't deserve any outstanding payment. Not sure I quite follow the logic here, presumably Harris would negotiate his own contract with the Rye House promotion so well done to him for getting a good contract. You might want to ask why the Rye house promotion were so daft to agree to a contract they weren't able to afford, presumably Nicholls, Kasprazak and co had equally lucrative contract, little wonder then that Rye House found themselves in the mess they did. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,645 Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, screm said: Not sure I quite follow the logic here, presumably Harris would negotiate his own contract with the Rye House promotion so well done to him for getting a good contract. You might want to ask why the Rye house promotion were so daft to agree to a contract they weren't able to afford, presumably Nicholls, Kasprazak and co had equally lucrative contract, little wonder then that Rye House found themselves in the mess they did. It's clear what I mean. The rider's took advantage of promoters that clearly had no idea about Speedway. Is it well done Harris? Through the rider's greed, the club closed down and they wasn't paid their full contract and actually ended up worse off because of it, so it isn't "well done" at all for anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,050 Posted January 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: It's clear what I mean. The rider's took advantage of promoters that clearly had no idea about Speedway. Is it well done Harris? Through the rider's greed, the club closed down and they wasn't paid their full contract and actually ended up worse off because of it, so it isn't "well done" at all for anyone. The riders will get their money either directly from the promotion or from the bond, in reality one and the same really, in fact haven't at least some of the riders had their money. If the riders did take advantage of a promotion who had no idea about speedway, then more fool them, as surely in those circumstances you would get someone in at least to advise on doing rider contracts. I don`t put blame any of this at the door of Chris Harris. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted January 24, 2019 Its what happens when clubs offer inflated guarantees to riders. Bomber still reckons he's owed money for 9 meetings in this week's Star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) On 1/11/2019 at 10:00 AM, bigcatdiary said: Of course that’s assuming Rye paid a bond in the first place. GOOD point... it has been suggested that some tracks consider their rider assets (which, in fact, are not really tangible assets in the first place) as their bond. Edited January 24, 2019 by PHILIPRISING 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted January 25, 2019 More "wide boy" Arthur Daley ways of doing business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites