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What sports in Brit run at a profit? I reckon about 95% of ALL sports run at a loss and only exist due to rich owners or good sponsorship. Speedway needs to look  at proper sponsorship deals (not piddly local , be they  useful & no insult but..), and a good publicist.

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2 hours ago, Mediman said:

What does it cost .

lets start on a meeting draw thats 45 points per team.

Across the board you would say 100 per point so thats £4500.00, the there are  tyres, matchday staff  including  doctor, ambulance services, paramedic, starting marshal's pit marshall, inspector referee and timekeeper turnstile operators.track staff, tractor driver, fuel, et al.

Now if this is my business i have to pay myself and any others, marketing, stadium upkeep or lease, power, maintenance the list goes on.

I have only a window of around 20 meetings at home and i still have to pay the riders for away meetings the figures prove difficult reading if you think that a few years ago i was getting 80-90k from tv revenue and now I get 14.

Would riders go part time some may but if they get injured how will this affect the day job and could they expect their employer to give them the time off to travel from the North to say poole.

I dont have the answers but I do know that big big changes to the sport are due and one I would like is a management committee that does not have its head so far in the sand and so disconnected with its revenue paying customers.

 

 

Track curators get paid some others get a minimal amount turnstyle staff are volunteers. I couldnt see riders going PT,  they wouldnt be able to make it pay, but  as you say, the list is endless. Proper red shale is not cheep either, nors the transport costs. Then you have insidentals like kickboards airfences airfences panal repairs netting. St johns + paramedic Public liabillity insurance will be an arm and two legs, travelling expences , how long you got ? Not so rosy as some on this forum would have you think..Is it.. ;)

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14 hours ago, Aces51 said:

Unfortunately, it doesn't. Belle Vue lost money last year even with average crowds of 1500 and I'm sure they weren't the only ones. This year, so far,  crowds are noticeably down on last year and the only difference is the change of race night. In fact you might reasonably have expected crowds to have gone up with fewer riders missing due to doubling up.

1500, i would bet you you dont even get half that now.

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The stadium has been empty for most of the meetings this season. The longer the silence and uncertainty goes on, The less I look for any news.

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8 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

The stadium has been empty for most of the meetings this season. The longer the silence and uncertainty goes on, The less I look for any news.

Quite agree and if the promoters are hoping to run meetings, however unlikely that's looking, they are not doing themselves any favours with the deafening silence.

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43 minutes ago, Starman2006 said:

1500, i would bet you you dont even get half that now.

Do you even know what half of 1500 is? Because we do get more than that!

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36 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

The stadium has been empty for most of the meetings this season. The longer the silence and uncertainty goes on, The less I look for any news.

Averaging around 400 I’ve been told. That’s not sustainable at Championship level, let alone the Premiership. 

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1 minute ago, Shadders said:

Averaging around 400 I’ve been told. That’s not sustainable at Championship level, let alone the Premiership. 

I would say,  that's an accurate estimate shads.

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The current situation at Ryer House has been seen before in the early 90's when Ronnie Russell shut it down several years after he

acquired it from Len Silver. It went to Stock Cars with a tarmac track but returned to Speedway once again under the control of Len

Silver.  The present owners seem to be involved in Car Racing but do not appear to be Speedway "Savvy". I cannot see a future as things

currently stand, but owners change and new people appear, so in the long term, our sport MAY not be entirely lost to Speedway. I certainly

hope not as it is one of the tracks that I visit from time to time. 

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What i dont get is they ploughed alot of money into centre green to get the motocross circuit up and running,anyone know if  people are using it and its being promoted?ALso they have the Kart race circuit at the back owned by diff people ,but how is it that has remained over the years staging world cup and uk races and never seems to be in any trouble.Is there a link between the 2 circuits?promotions etc.

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No link as far as I'm aware. As for the motocross track, going by the amount of weeds growing on it, I'd say it's had very little use.

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Not sure how it works £ note wise but I believe the go kart track is part of the 99 lease that was bought by Len in the early 2000’s so I would think the gokart track comes under the control who ever owns BMR. 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, speedwaysliders said:

What i dont get is they ploughed alot of money into centre green to get the motocross circuit up and running,anyone know if  people are using it and its being promoted?ALso they have the Kart race circuit at the back owned by diff people ,but how is it that has remained over the years staging world cup and uk races and never seems to be in any trouble.Is there a link between the 2 circuits?promotions etc.

The lease for the kart track was bought by BMR but rented out to another company. I think the kart track runs 7 days per week including some evenings plus those taking part pay for the privilege. Not surprised it makes money. 

Not sure there is any motorsport apart from speedway where the entrants don't pay to participate.

 

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7 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

No link as far as I'm aware. As for the motocross track, going by the amount of weeds growing on it, I'd say it's had very little use.

That crossed my mind a while ago so I googled Motorcross tracks Herts/Essex, loads of tracks listed but no Rye House which is a bit silly if you want to make a profit from something.

Regards kart track I believe the same promotion did own it but I don't know if they still do.

 

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, colin wood said:

Do you even know what half of 1500 is? Because we do get more than that!

I dont think you do. Try pulling the wool over somebody elses eyes..

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