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1 hour ago, lewy said:

Does anyone know if the riders will get fixed up anywhere else?

Depends if there are some teams looking to chop and change 

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We are in the situation that pertained in 1960. The biggest success story of my 60 years of an interest in speedway was the Provincial League. The National League was down to about 8 teams and strugling but the PL settled down well. No big stars, some who were but past their peak, but rising talent (Mauger, Monk, Eric Boocock, George Hunter) ensured good if not really top notch racing. We do not need the GP stars. We need one big league with as many teams as there are riders, no doubling up so that the fans can relate to their riders. Accuse me of being a dinosaur if you like but the present path is the road to ruin IMHO.L

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14 minutes ago, bill94d said:

We are in the situation that pertained in 1960. The biggest success story of my 60 years of an interest in speedway was the Provincial League. The National League was down to about 8 teams and strugling but the PL settled down well. No big stars, some who were but past their peak, but rising talent (Mauger, Monk, Eric Boocock, George Hunter) ensured good if not really top notch racing. We do not need the GP stars. We need one big league with as many teams as there are riders, no doubling up so that the fans can relate to their riders. Accuse me of being a dinosaur if you like but the present path is the road to ruin IMHO.L

 

Fans relating to their riders. Got it in one. 

Can you imagine Coca Cola changing their recipe every year?

 

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1 hour ago, crescent girl said:

100% correct!     The Shawcross Report (still available online) told the story, sorted the SCB and said speedway was a business.    Power was stripped away from the axis of SCB/big league mafia and spread across all promotions, forming the BSPA.        

Where have you gone, Joe Shawcross?  A nation turns its lonely eyes to you........?

And Joe Dimagio would have been a great attraction at any speedway meeting.

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2 hours ago, topaz325 said:

Because it is inevitable .......falling crowds over the last 5-10 years at least , anyway it’s not the promoters fault it’s the fans fault for not flocking to the stadiums.

That's right I blame the fans too! They could have all taken the Promoters advice and brought a new friend every week ( sometimes two ) or over the last few years eagerly paid, say £25 or even £30 to get in. That would have given riders a much better living ( no mortgages ) and promoters far fewer headaches and financial stresses. Fans should all be castigated and any over 65 should really pay more, not less. With 2,000people per match at Rye House even BMR would have made it a roaring success.  

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55 minutes ago, bill94d said:

We are in the situation that pertained in 1960. The biggest success story of my 60 years of an interest in speedway was the Provincial League. The National League was down to about 8 teams and strugling but the PL settled down well. No big stars, some who were but past their peak, but rising talent (Mauger, Monk, Eric Boocock, George Hunter) ensured good if not really top notch racing. We do not need the GP stars. We need one big league with as many teams as there are riders, no doubling up so that the fans can relate to their riders. Accuse me of being a dinosaur if you like but the present path is the road to ruin IMHO.L

If clubs are running at a profit/break even, why should GP riders be done away with?

You only have to look at the shambles in the Championship of fixtures being cancelled and moved because teams need guest riders and there aren't any available. What a joke situation that is. Scunthorpe going to Redcar tonight with only 3 of their usual team. There simply isn't enough riders for one big league.

I haven't done the maths on whether 6 man teams would seem more logical to try and make it work but even that seems a long shot to me.

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I see the SGB website has chosen not to make any mention of this and have immediately taken the link off the Premiership clubs links. Guilt do we think!

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3 minutes ago, Najjer said:

If clubs are running at a profit/break even, why should GP riders be done away with?

He doesn't say that GP riders should "be done away with", he says that we "don't need" GP riders; two very different statements.  Others have mentioned on here that riders of a similar standard can provide excellent racing, which is true.  You don't "need" GP riders to provide good racing.

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9 minutes ago, Najjer said:

If clubs are running at a profit/break even, why should GP riders be done away with?

You only have to look at the shambles in the Championship of fixtures being cancelled and moved because teams need guest riders and there aren't any available. What a joke situation that is. Scunthorpe going to Redcar tonight with only 3 of their usual team. There simply isn't enough riders for one big league.

I haven't done the maths on whether 6 man teams would seem more logical to try and make it work but even that seems a long shot to me.

Only two clubs have GP riders in their line ups. The league isn’t exactly flooded with them. 

So we’re at a point where we hope our clubs are just breaking even? That’s only going to end one way and that’s more clubs going the way of Rye.

 

When things are rosy at your own club it’s easy to take the if it’s not broke don’t fix it attitude but there are serious issues with Speedway in this country and they need fixing. If one league (which there are enough riders for) is the answer and the standard drops slightly so that we can all prosper in future then so be it. 

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1 minute ago, Ben91 said:

Only two clubs have GP riders in their line ups. The league isn’t exactly flooded with them. 

So we’re at a point where we hope our clubs are just breaking even? That’s only going to end one way and that’s more clubs going the way of Rye.

 

When things are rosy at your own club it’s easy to take the if it’s not broke don’t fix it attitude but there are serious issues with Speedway in this country and they need fixing. If one league (which there are enough riders for) is the answer and the standard drops slightly so that we can all prosper in future then so be it. 

Although currently only two official riders, Niels K Iversen has ridden in the GPs this year and also Chris Holder would of been in the league too but for visa issues. You can add Martin Vaculik to that list before his injury. There is still some other top riders within the league currently like Lambert, Bjerre, Andersen and up until yesterday Kasprzak etc.

There is a massive problem currently and it's certainly not all rosy. But one big league where everyone has to drop down to Redcar's standard is not the answer. That will see fans leave the sport in it's masses!

The comment about breaking even is because believe it or not, I don't have every club's financial status so I assume the at the very least to make things a success, clubs need to break even.

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8 minutes ago, White City Rebel said:

A new statement on the RH website (sorry, no idea how you put links up) - worth reading!

The plot thickens

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I have serious doubts now as to whether Speedway will be able to see out the rest of the season

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