adonis 1,454 Posted July 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: Thank you for the explanation. All very complex and a tangled web. Maybe BMR have a legal case to take against the BSPA? By forcing BMR to operate on a race night which clearly was not producing sufficient fans and if BMR did ask to switch to a weekend race night, but were turned down, doesn't the BSPA share the blame for RH's demise? the BSPA have been responsible for the demise of loads of clubs , but sadly nothing changes . the associations in most other sports actually come to the aid of lame ducks . the BSPA just see it as an opportunity to grab the bonds and any assets going 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted July 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: Thank you for the explanation. All very complex and a tangled web. Maybe BMR have a legal case to take against the BSPA? By forcing BMR to operate on a race night which clearly was not producing sufficient fans and if BMR did ask to switch to a weekend race night, but were turned down, doesn't the BSPA share the blame for RH's demise? Surely when you are a member of a league you abide by the rules the league come up with?You can’t just say I am not doing that,it is bad for my club.Well of course you can.You have to leave the league.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Stadia 1,064 Posted July 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, iris123 said: Surely when you are a member of a league you abide by the rules the league come up with?You can’t just say I am not doing that,it is bad for my club.Well of course you can.You have to leave the league.... Of course, they could have left the league, but I would imagine RH didn't realise how destructive a week day race night was going to be. Hindsight is a wonderful gift! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whisperer 276 Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) On 7/7/2018 at 10:25 AM, Steve Shovlar said: You’re kidding, yes? A four team tournament league? What idiot thought up that? I most certainly wouldn’t be bothered to watch that. Do the maths Steve, no doubling up, reduced number of non UK riders = 1 rider 1 team. If 16 clubs survive where are you going to get 112 riders for 7 man teams? Try 5 man teams it's nearer reality and with injuries and legitimate absences you're talking 4 + R/R or a rabbit to make up the numbers. Without being facetious I'm really surprised you're source hasn't leaked this one to you, maybe after Tuesdays showdown. Edited July 8, 2018 by Whisperer 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whisperer 276 Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Surely when you are a member of a league you abide by the rules the league come up with?You can’t just say I am not doing that,it is bad for my club.Well of course you can.You have to leave the league.... You're right in principle but if the circumstances that influenced you to join change dramatically and you haven't got a vote to position your objection there really are only two options. Shut up and put up or get out, unfortunately Rye have had to do both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted July 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: Of course, they could have left the league, but I would imagine RH didn't realise how destructive a week day race night was going to be. Hindsight is a wonderful gift! Everyone else did though. Rye has always been a marriage of convenience for South East speedway fans. That's why so many neutrals attended at weekends. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted July 7, 2018 43 minutes ago, Whisperer said: Do the maths Steve, no doubling up reduced number of non UK riders = 1 rider 1 team. If 16 clubs survive where are you going to get 112 riders for 7 man teams? Try 5 man teams it's nearer reality and with injuries and legitimate absences you're talking 4 + R/R or a rabbit to make up the numbers. Without being facetious I'm really surprised you're source hasn't leaked this one to you, maybe after Tuesdays showdown. Well I guess “my source” will tell me if it comes about, but I will say that if it does, 2018 would be my last season watching the sport live, which would be a shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trackrat 440 Posted July 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Well I guess “my source” will tell me if it comes about, but I will say that if it does, 2018 would be my last season watching the sport live, which would be a shame. The only sauce he's got is the tomato kind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whisperer said: Do the maths Steve, no doubling up reduced number of non UK riders = 1 rider 1 team. If 16 clubs survive where are you going to get 112 riders for 7 man teams? Try 5 man teams it's nearer reality and with injuries and legitimate absences you're talking 4 + R/R or a rabbit to make up the numbers. Without being facetious I'm really surprised you're source hasn't leaked this one to you, maybe after Tuesdays showdown. There's 150 riders on the 2016 end of season list so that's plenty. One league with no double uppers is feasible. Edited July 7, 2018 by DC2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted July 7, 2018 And each of the 16 teams to have at least one Brit under 23, whether that be someone like Wajtknecht or Kemp at reserve or Lambert or Bewley in the top five. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Ray Stadia said: Of course, they could have left the league, but I would imagine RH didn't realise how destructive a week day race night was going to be. Hindsight is a wonderful gift! Why?Last season they ran a number of meetings on an off night I think....nothing to do with hindsight.It seems the people running the place made some very poor decisions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted July 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, iris123 said: Why?Last season they ran a number of meetings on an off night I think....nothing to do with hindsight.It seems the people running the place made some very poor decisions Probably on riders wages! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Hunter 368 Posted July 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, DC2 said: And each of the 16 teams to have at least one Brit under 23, whether that be someone like Wajtknecht or Kemp at reserve or Lambert or Bewley in the top five. The last time something like this happened people were surprised by the number of retired riders (of various ages and for various reasons) who came back to ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted July 8, 2018 It's looking like RH has been thrown out of the Balloon in order to help BV to stay in it, and by so doing keep it in the sky. But it still resembles the one from the Cider advert, scraping the rooftops with Buster at the controls. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted July 8, 2018 Nothing at all to do with BV. When we ever received help from the authorities? I’d love a more detailed post so I can put you straight on your misunderstandings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
