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Refereeing Cock-up At Swindon V Belle Vue Ko Cup

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It looks simple enough. If a rider is disqualified / excluded or any other word they dream up and he doesn't take the 15m option then this will count as a ride if he isn't replaced by a reserve and it doesn't count as a ride if he replaced.

Simples

It is simple- makes you wonder why Rosco, Lemo and the ref can`t add up to 3 !!!!

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The result should be amended, BWD points nulled for that heat and everyone else moves up a place.

 

It's so sad to see referees who don't know the rules - not good enough :nono:

 

I remember Kyle Newman breaking the rules by riding without goggles

 

The result was allowed to stand and Poole won the POs..

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Poor old Brad seems the innocent victim again.

I don't sense any feeling against BWD for this. The rules were broken. He didn't do anything wrong, it was his team management and the ref for not knowing the rules.

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The result won't be changed and quite rightly so as it's the ref fault not's swindon .It's not just as easy as taking two points away as if the ref had apply the rules swindon could have sent muse to tapes etc changing the whole course of the match etc .The bottom line the ref is at fault and the result will stay the same .

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The result won't be changed and quite rightly so as it's the ref fault not's swindon .It's not just as easy as taking two points away as if the ref had apply the rules swindon could have sent muse to tapes etc changing the whole course of the match etc .The bottom line the ref is at fault and the result will stay the same .

Are you on a wind-up. Not Swindon`s fault- How long has Rosco been team managing ? he nominated BWD for the ride- yes the ref was incompetent. however Swindon have gained 2 race points illegally- and if speedway has a shread of credibility left then the SCB must amend the result- and if and when they do Swindon would have no complaint !!!!

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Why did they drop him then?

 

 

cant be true..... otherwise why did Poole sack him!!! Plus don't recall him winning many races from reserve at Poole this season!!

 

Form and opportunity?... Are you new to this sport?

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Are you on a wind-up. Not Swindon`s fault- How long has Rosco been team managing ? he nominated BWD for the ride- yes the ref was incompetent. however Swindon have gained 2 race points illegally- and if speedway has a shread of credibility left then the SCB must amend the result- and if and when they do Swindon would have no complaint !!!!

How long has the ref been a ref ? how long has lemon been in speedway ? as I said you cant change the result because it's not as simple as taking the two points away as if the rules had been done in a correct manner that heat and the match would have a took a completely different course and outcome .

 

As someone has already pointed out are they going to change the play off final result from two years ago because Newman was not wearing his googles ? maybe in your book that was middlo's and newman fault for not knowing the rules .. rocky road when you start changing the refs decision after the event

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How long has the ref been a ref ? how long has lemon been in speedway ? as I said you cant change the result because it's not as simple as taking the two points away as if the rules had been done in a correct manner that heat and the match would have a took a completely different course and outcome .

 

As someone has already pointed out are they going to change the play off final result from two years ago because Newman was not wearing his googles ? maybe in your book that was middlo's and newman fault for not knowing the rules .. rocky road when you start changing the refs decision after the event

So tell me why was the result was amended a few years ago in the Peterborough v Poole match when a wrong +5% was used by Poole for an away guest rider. points were taken away. didn`t the ref cock-up that night as well ?

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Ok. Suppose this scenario happened.

 

A similar thing occurs, with a rider coming in when he shouldn't, and that rider scores a point that enables the opposition to use a TR, from which they gain 3 extra points and go on to win the match by one point.

 

If the rider who scores in the first race should have his points removed, should the TR extra points also be removed as that would no longer be valid use of a TR?

 

In which case, the side who use the illegal rider lose one point and win the match because the team that didn't and won by a point then lose 3 points?

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Ok. Suppose this scenario happened.

 

A similar thing occurs, with a rider coming in when he shouldn't, and that rider scores a point that enables the opposition to use a TR, from which they gain 3 extra points and go on to win the match by one point.

 

If the rider who scores in the first race should have his points removed, should the TR extra points also be removed as that would no longer be valid use of a TR?

 

In which case, the side who use the illegal rider lose one point and win the match because the team that didn't and won by a point then lose 3 points?

Find the ruling the SCB made on the Peterborough v Poole match a few years back- I think that would answer your point- however last night was the 1st leg of an aggregate competition- so isn`t it doubly important that the score is corrected. it wasn`t Belle Vue who cocked up(although they should have noticed) and should they suffer the consequences of the error ?

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Ok. Suppose this scenario happened.

 

A similar thing occurs, with a rider coming in when he shouldn't, and that rider scores a point that enables the opposition to use a TR, from which they gain 3 extra points and go on to win the match by one point.

 

If the rider who scores in the first race should have his points removed, should the TR extra points also be removed as that would no longer be valid use of a TR?

 

In which case, the side who use the illegal rider lose one point and win the match because the team that didn't and won by a point then lose 3 points?

Spot on ..this is the point have been making ..the match would not have the same outcome and would run out another way if the rules were apply in correct manner that is why the result should stand .

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