orion 7,612 Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Bwd is not 100 % fit that its quite clear ..so yes a plus taking that into account Edited September 21, 2017 by orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) THJ a plus over BWD who got a maximum in the main body of the team last time!! Yes, for the reasons I set out in my post that you quoted. Riders like BWD occasionally perform exceptionally but the operative word is occasionally. His form has dipped and in my opinion a repeat of that paid maximum or even anything approaching that performance is extremely unlikely.THJ has been in poor form but as is often said, form is temporary but class is permanent. In my opinion it is more likely that THJ will score more points than BWD would have done. He may have a terrible night, I hope he does but I believe that most knowledgeable fans given an option to choose between the two would choose THJ. Edited September 21, 2017 by Aces51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted September 22, 2017 Yes, for the reasons I set out in my post that you quoted. Riders like BWD occasionally perform exceptionally but the operative word is occasionally. His form has dipped and in my opinion a repeat of that paid maximum or even anything approaching that performance is extremely unlikely.THJ has been in poor form but as is often said, form is temporary but class is permanent. In my opinion it is more likely that THJ will score more points than BWD would have done. He may have a terrible night, I hope he does but I believe that most knowledgeable fans given an option to choose between the two would choose THJ. Nope - would rather have a fully fit BWD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted September 22, 2017 Yes, for the reasons I set out in my post that you quoted. Riders like BWD occasionally perform exceptionally but the operative word is occasionally. His form has dipped and in my opinion a repeat of that paid maximum or even anything approaching that performance is extremely unlikely.THJ has been in poor form but as is often said, form is temporary but class is permanent. In my opinion it is more likely that THJ will score more points than BWD would have done. He may have a terrible night, I hope he does but I believe that most knowledgeable fans given an option to choose between the two would choose THJ.You sound like Tony Millard! I agree THJ far better option at the moment especially after seeing his score last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,853 Posted September 22, 2017 BWD was a fluke. So He won't score another max or even close to it again at NSS. Â THJ improves you greatly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted September 22, 2017 Without Doyley and Deano will go 52-40 to the Mancs, although Robins won there easily last time, with Deano top scorer. Â How can it be 52-40? There's only 90 points available. Â All the best Rob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,658 Posted September 22, 2017 BWD was a fluke. So He won't score another max or even close to it again at NSS. Â THJ improves you greatly He may improve them.But having watched THJ ride for Lynn this season he was nothing short of dreadful in all of his matches bar one.But if he does somehow re-discover the form that everyone knows he is capable of then of course he will be a match winner. Having said all that,i would have him back at Lynn next season purely because of his very low average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted September 22, 2017 He may improve them.But having watched THJ ride for Lynn this season he was nothing short of dreadful in all of his matches bar one.But if he does somehow re-discover the form that everyone knows he is capable of then of course he will be a match winner. Having said all that,i would have him back at Lynn next season purely because of his very low average. I think the point is that he might have been "nothing short of dreadful" but even so has virtually the same average as BWD. We know he is capable of doing much better whereas BWD is doing as expected for a rider of his experience and ability but he is still improving and next year may be a different story. You sound like Tony Millard! I agree THJ far better option at the moment especially after seeing his score last night. "Sound like" better get help now if you're hearing voices when you read posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted September 22, 2017 I think the point is that he might have been "nothing short of dreadful" but even so has virtually the same average as BWD. We know he is capable of doing much better whereas BWD is doing as expected for a rider of his experience and ability but he is still improving and next year may be a different story. Â "Sound like" better get help now if you're hearing voices when you read posts. Especially if I am hearing young Millard!! He never could pronounce Bjerre! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted September 22, 2017 Good to see Dan Bewley managing 5 rides last night although his score indicates he needs a few more meetings to get back to race fitness. I hope he isn't feeling any ill affects today. Hopefully riding tonight and at the weekend will see him getting closer to being 100% for next week. Â Apparently Fricke is feeling battered and bruised after his crash in Sweden last night, it looked a bad one but fortunately it seems that neither he or AJ are suffering anything too serious. We'll have to hope that Max is also fully recovered by Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted September 22, 2017 Hans v Brady in the guest list!! Could be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted September 22, 2017 Hans v Brady in the guest list!! Could be interesting. Yeah not interesting more worrying! Hope they stay away from each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted September 22, 2017 Not the beat time of the season for two pirates racing each other ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted September 22, 2017 Not the beat time of the season for two pirates racing each other ? Nobody can resist an opportunity to ride at the NSS but it's upsetting to see their disappointment when told we can't offer then a team place next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted September 22, 2017 Gives our top two some practice on the track should BV make the final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites