leander 495 Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: am sure that 'home grown', in lamens terms, actually means, ' Brits only',,, but with 'Britex' and that going on, it might upset a few Yep. My mistake forgot about the homegrown bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted May 1, 2018 On 30/04/2018 at 8:07 AM, ruffdiamond said: I think the fact that Ash was second in 'rider of the year' after he joined us late in 2016 says a lot, then last year also. He may have been like the littlest hobo in the past, but his words after the meeting last night were very encouraging. Unfortunately, a think Ludde is always gonna be the whipping boy :-(. He is under performing though RD. Perhaps a rest from the Captaincy might help. We already have an ideal replacement for that job in 'Robbo'. I think he should have been given it in the first place. 20 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: If Robbo goes to no.1,,, I had better load up me 'ammo' for WKD What if Lindgren goes to Reserve - not an impossible scenario the way things are going for him this Season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted May 1, 2018 Up to and including: Sunday, October 22, 2017 . AVERAGES M R P B GSA Ave. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th R Ex Robert Lambert 28 133 310 14 9.32 9.74 75 34 17 4 2 1 Steve Worrall 29 142 324 11 9.13 9.44 78 37 16 7 1 3 Ludvig Lindgren 33 146 263 29 7.21 8.00 43 50 34 17 0 2 Stuart Robson 14 61 107 13 7.02 7.87 13 26 16 4 1 1 Ashley Morris 36 150 183 33 4.88 5.76 22 34 49 35 4 6 Ben Hopwood 30 122 75 14 2.46 2.92 3 12 42 59 2 4 Alfie Bowtell 20 86 47 13 2.19 2.79 0 9 29 44 2 2 Lewis Rose 18 77 125 20 6.49 7.53 16 29 19 8 1 4 Danny Phillips 4 16 14 5 3.50 4.75 2 2 4 5 2 1 Dan Greenwood 3 12 6 1 2.00 2.33 1 1 1 9 0 0 Connor Coles 12 45 7 2 0.62 0.80 0 1 5 33 2 4 . Last year Ludvig averaged third highest in our team, behind Steve and Robert which is reasonable, he averaged better than Robson and Lewis (Our other two heat leaders so far this year) How does he under perform and the likes of Robson and Lewis don't? Fair enough, he's had a shaky start to this year, but the whole team has, what did anyone else expect? He's in a position that he shouldn't be in (number 1) and the whole team throughout is pretty weak compared to other teams in the league, we have no money and we've been told since last November that this year would be dodgy, as RD says, Ludvig will always be the whipping boy However, I do agree, Robbo, Ash or even Wilko should maybe be the captain, never quite understood the captaincy for Ludvig other than the fact he's been a face at Newcastle for many years so it's a bit of familiarity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulS 55 Posted May 1, 2018 Ludvig's heat 1 win on Sunday was a fine ride, just needs to get his machinery issues sorted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted May 1, 2018 23 hours ago, leander said: New green sheet averages from 01 May show a little change. Overall team average drops slightly from 41.24 to 41.10 meaning we have 7.87 to play with regarding a replacement for Lewis. Robbo moves to number 1. Ash stays (just) at reserve for another month. Result! Those new averages are based over 20 last meetings in both 2017 and 2018, and now include Championship Shield points, despite League Cup and Shield meetings not usually included. It does men the likes of Ludde has only just dropped a little, and Ash's average has only increase marginally after it has been rolled over the 20 meetings. With Robbo at number 1, we can get a decent number 1 for the next 5 meetings, giving the promotion a breather to get a Rose replacement in during that month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted May 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, PaulS said: Ludvig's heat 1 win on Sunday was a fine ride, just needs to get his machinery issues sorted... Wish I'd been there to see it, sounds like it was a cracking meeting, I'm still in Finland and have only seen them once this year!! 9 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Those new averages are based over 20 last meetings in both 2017 and 2018, and now include Championship Shield points, despite League Cup and Shield meetings not usually included. It does men the likes of Ludde has only just dropped a little, and Ash's average has only increase marginally after it has been rolled over the 20 meetings. With Robbo at number 1, we can get a decent number 1 for the next 5 meetings, giving the promotion a breather to get a Rose replacement in during that month. No offence to Robbo, he's a great man and all that, but I wouldn't exactly call him a decent number 1 either, no rider in our team is a number 1, but as long as we have good reserves, that's not too bad I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Tsunami said: Those new averages are based over 20 last meetings in both 2017 and 2018, and now include Championship Shield points, despite League Cup and Shield meetings not usually included. It does men the likes of Ludde has only just dropped a little, and Ash's average has only increase marginally after it has been rolled over the 20 meetings. With Robbo at number 1, we can get a decent number 1 for the next 5 meetings, giving the promotion a breather to get a Rose replacement in during that month. The choice of guests for Robbo hasn't changed simply because his average hasn't changed. It's just that whoever guests (assuming we continue to go down that route) will be at No1 instead of No 3 or 5 or wherever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 1, 2018 Revised list has been issued today which sees quite a few changed for a number of teams!! Lindgren still at no1 This most recent list includes 30 meetings rather than the previously stated 20 meeting sample I would say you couldnt make it up but clearly someone is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted May 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Revised list has been issued today which sees quite a few changed for a number of teams!! Lindgren still at no1 This most recent list includes 30 meetings rather than the previously stated 20 meeting sample I would say you couldnt make it up but clearly someone is! I'm not too sure if that's good news or bad!! The new list means that we now have 8.45 to play with to replace Lewis. That's the good news. The bad news is Robbo's average has dropped from 7.02 to 6.65 which further restricts our choice of guests. For example Lewis Kerr is no longer eligible (even with the 5% bonus allowed for home meetings) although Palm Toft still fits for Robbo but not Lewis Rose (who's average, for some reason, hasn't changed), Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 1, 2018 The issue of this first set of revised green sheets has been shambolic to say the least. Shield or no shield meetings included 20 meetings then 30 meetings All these changes after teams had declared their sides for this weeks meetings before now finding out guests are not now allowable in some cases or no longer elligible in others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stainlesssteelride 106 Posted May 1, 2018 Shambolic, you seem surprised. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New era Panthers 2,055 Posted May 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The issue of this first set of revised green sheets has been shambolic to say the least. Shield or no shield meetings included 20 meetings then 30 meetings All these changes after teams had declared their sides for this weeks meetings before now finding out guests are not now allowable in some cases or no longer elligible in others It's called BSPA/ SCB transparency I believe. What a shocker here we are 4/5 weeks into the season and still nobody knows what the rules are regarding averages and the championship shield is so ill thought out it's a total shambles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icicle 896 Posted May 1, 2018 Usual disorganisation SNAFU be thy motto.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, The White Knight said: He is under performing though RD. Perhaps a rest from the Captaincy might help. We already have an ideal replacement for that job in 'Robbo'. I think he should have been given it in the first place. What if Lindgren goes to Reserve - not an impossible scenario the way things are going for him this Season? as I mentioned earlier, based on this seasons matches so far, only Ash and Tero are performing to, or above their averages. I agree that Ludde is under performing, as to is Robbo, Wethers, Wilkinson and Rose was. Although the critism of those riders seems non existant. I don't find that strange at all tho, but in my opinion I don't agree with it. Edited May 1, 2018 by ruffdiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, leander said: The choice of guests for Robbo hasn't changed simply because his average hasn't changed. It's just that whoever guests (assuming we continue to go down that route) will be at No1 instead of No 3 or 5 or wherever. ???? Yes. I mistakedly still had Robbo on 7.02, so same old for his replacements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
