Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Bit like Poole asset Perks. Nobody wants him either. Still, let's bring foreigners over on a 5.20 average and ensure some British riders who want to ride can't. Only in British speedway as per usual. Wolves could have signed him as he rode for them a couple of seasons ago. Frankly its disgraceful they didn’t. He is out of a team because Wolves or Belle Vue didn’t offer him a team place. A disgrace! And to think Wolves could have given a spot to Jacobs instead of Jonny Foreigner Heeps. Talk about wolves not looking after British riders! Edited January 8, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted January 8, 2018 Irrespective of whether his name is Joe Jacobs or Mr X, it is sad to see a young British rider, who has potentially ten years in the sport ahead of him, retire. The sport needs as many young British riders coming through as possible for the future. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestGorton1884 621 Posted January 8, 2018 Joe Jacobs achieved a 5.14 average , The argument that he wasn't good enough surely ends there ?, well to any normal thinking person . Sure he was exceptional at NSS ,and struggled away at smaller tracks, but the point is at 24 yrs old Surely there was room for improvement ?, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestGorton1884 621 Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, topsoil said: Irrespective of whether his name is Joe Jacobs or Mr X, it is sad to see a young British rider, who has potentially ten years in the sport ahead of him, retire. The sport needs as many young British riders coming through as possible for the future. Correct , that's the point we're trying to make, however the Dorset Mafia just pass him off as being crap At 24 yrs of age ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, WestGorton1884 said: Joe Jacobs achieved a 5.14 average , The argument that he wasn't good enough surely ends there ?, well to any normal thinking person . Sure he was exceptional at NSS ,and struggled away at smaller tracks, but the point is at 24 yrs old Surely there was room for improvement ?, Of course it doesn't end there. As you say he was brilliant at the NSS but to be frank at some away tracks he beyond struggled and at times looked like he'd never rode a bike before. It's for that reason why I suspect many promoters were reluctant to take him back. Let's face it, if Belle Vue haven't signed him 2 years running, on a track where he is superb, he's hardly likely to be picked up by others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, hyderd said: care to do his home scores. Of what relevance are his home scores when he wouldn't be riding for Belle Vue? There is only one team where it makes any sense whatsoever in signing Jacobs, that is Belle Vue. However, they kicked him into touch. Edited January 8, 2018 by BWitcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted January 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Wolves could have signed him as he rode for them a couple of seasons ago. Frankly its disgraceful they didn’t. He is out of a team because Wolves or Belle Vue didn’t offer him a team place. A disgrace! And to think Wolves could have given a spot to Jacobs instead of Jonny Foreigner Heeps. Talk about wolves not looking after British riders! Priceless Howarth, Ellis, Newman anybody to name but 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted January 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Wolves could have signed him as he rode for them a couple of seasons ago. Frankly its disgraceful they didn’t. He is out of a team because Wolves or Belle Vue didn’t offer him a team place. A disgrace! And to think Wolves could have given a spot to Jacobs instead of Jonny Foreigner Heeps. Talk about wolves not looking after British riders! It nearly makes us as bad as Poole, how dreadful. Still, 3 Brits at Wolves again this season. You can rely on Poole to not do their bit, as per usual. You can see why Howarth and Adam wanted out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestGorton1884 621 Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: Of course it doesn't end there. As you say he was brilliant at the NSS but to be frank at some away tracks he beyond struggled and at times looked like he'd never rode a bike before. It's for that reason why I suspect many promoters were reluctant to take him back. Let's face it, if Belle Vue haven't signed him 2 years running, on a track where he is superb, he's hardly likely to be picked up by others. Agree , the fact is , his average of 5.14 meant it was hard to justify a team place in 2017 , I think the main point is , its another young British rider seemingly lost to sport, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said: I am agreeing to the post in general about British riders not being able to get team places. Not just reserves. Jacobs wouldn't get a team place period because he isn't good enough. Simple as that really. Morris & Greaves are much better. Ayres & Morley are better. Davey only has a place at Swindon because they ran out of points to play with otherwise he would have been left without a job. Jacobs isn't good enough and Promoters know it. Otherwise he would be offered team places when the team building starts not half way through the season when riders get injured. Morris ,Greaves , Ayres much better are you on something ???? that statement shows us all that you cannot watch much Speedway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces High 70 Posted January 8, 2018 Given that Jacobs is a specialist around the NSS he'd probably be good on the continental tracks...then Poole would be desperate to sign him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted January 8, 2018 33 minutes ago, WestGorton1884 said: Agree , the fact is , his average of 5.14 meant it was hard to justify a team place in 2017 , I think the main point is , its another young British rider seemingly lost to sport, Agreed and its a huge shame for the lad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted January 8, 2018 54 minutes ago, WestGorton1884 said: Agree , the fact is , his average of 5.14 meant it was hard to justify a team place in 2017 , I think the main point is , its another young British rider seemingly lost to sport, And the team most to blame are...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted January 8, 2018 It was a great shame that the BSPA cut the points limit right back after we topped the league. I’m just please we managed to replaced our outgoing British reserves with two more Brits. I was looking forward to Joe returning this year but once it was clear he couldn’t make it pay without a CL place and none made an offer the chance was gone. It needs more teams to back the Brits to make it work. It’s a shame we don’t own a CL club. Best of luck Joe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, WestGorton1884 said: Correct , that's the point we're trying to make, however the Dorset Mafia just pass him off as being crap At 24 yrs of age ! No. The Belle Vue promotion have passed him off. They could have had him in the team instead of Drodz. But they didn’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
