SomersetBlue 212 Posted December 26, 2017 Vaculik will be on a 9.00 as he is a GP rider. Pieszczek is a 7.00 is he not? Sarjeant should be a 3.81 surely seeing as that is his established average regardless of what he did in the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted December 27, 2017 11 hours ago, rebelwonderkid said: Vaculik will be on a 9.00 as he is a GP rider. Pieszczek is a 7.00 is he not? Sarjeant should be a 3.81 surely seeing as that is his established average regardless of what he did in the Championship. Rumours are GP riders are now 8.00s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomersetBlue 212 Posted December 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Najjer said: Rumours are GP riders are now 8.00s. Wish they would make their mind up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted December 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, rebelwonderkid said: Wish they would make their mind up. Do not forget the combined brain power of the bspa are working on this 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted December 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, Najjer said: Rumours are GP riders are now 8.00s. Why would they be 8.00? They should either be assessed at 9 (which is the proper level when compared to other riders) or be able to retain their original average because that is their average. Assessing at 8.00 makes to sense when Morris, Thorsell and Kurtz are all over that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Najjer said: Rumours are GP riders are now 8.00s. And I did read that riders like Pieszczek will be a 6 not 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Najjer said: Rumours are GP riders are now 8.00s. So does that mean a team can sign 1 GP rider assessed as 8, then 1 more over 8 point rider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted December 27, 2017 Where are these rumours of gp riders being given an 8 coming from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, hyderd said: So does that mean a team can sign 1 GP rider assessed as 8, then 1 more over 8 point rider. It's one 8 or over. Confirmed in speedway Star last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,636 Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Ah but did it state that the team's one 8 & over rider would remain as the team's only named 8 & over rider even if his average dropped below 8 points? Or are people jumping to conclusions? Edited December 27, 2017 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Al 708 Posted December 27, 2017 Gone beyond daft, hasn't it? Why can't riders just have an average based on what they did in league speedway in the season just ended. If they rode in GB league use that one. If they rode in Poland or Sweden but not UK, use their average from those leagues with an adjuster which is set by the FIM immediately after end of each season. If they rode both Poland and Sweden the higher figure applies. Why is there this obsession with treating GP riders differently. The GP's are a different kind of speedway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 27, 2017 16 hours ago, rebelwonderkid said: Vaculik will be on a 9.00 as he is a GP rider. Pieszczek is a 7.00 is he not? Sarjeant should be a 3.81 surely seeing as that is his established average regardless of what he did in the Championship. Sarj achieved that average in the Elite League. The Elite League is no more. It was scrapped a new league was introduced that initially used Premier League averages before using Premier League/Championship averages divided by 1.2. Why should Sarj have to use his old EL average when nobody else with a PL/Championship average has to? Riders no longer keep their old averages if they switch league but get a conversion now - we could argue for hours if this is right or wrong, personally I think it's right, riders should always sued their most current average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted December 27, 2017 6 hours ago, hyderd said: So does that mean a team can sign 1 GP rider assessed as 8, then 1 more over 8 point rider. As already explained, no - it's 1 x 8.00 or over, not 1 x 8.01 or over. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrow Boy 2 172 Posted December 28, 2017 17 hours ago, SCB said: Sarj achieved that average in the Elite League. The Elite League is no more. It was scrapped a new league was introduced that initially used Premier League averages before using Premier League/Championship averages divided by 1.2. Why should Sarj have to use his old EL average when nobody else with a PL/Championship average has to? Riders no longer keep their old averages if they switch league but get a conversion now - we could argue for hours if this is right or wrong, personally I think it's right, riders should always sued their most current average. Exactly and if his 2017 Div 2 scores had all been converted to equivalent Div 1 scores his previously attained 2016 average would have been reduced would it not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,093 Posted December 28, 2017 It would appear that Ashley Morris has a converted average from his 2017 championship average so it would appear that Sarjeant will have his average converted in the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites