ouch 1,191 Posted December 28, 2017 Is it divided by 1.2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted December 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, ouch said: Is it divided by 1.2? 1.3 I think but who knows! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 850 Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 8:56 AM, foreverblue said: Newman is more than capable of beating most reserves consistently, probably won't be at reserve very long though. I was talking about Sarjeant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted December 29, 2017 9 hours ago, Col said: I was talking about Sarjeant. I know, I was just pointing out Newman may prove to be one of the better reserves so may not be at reserve long so they may need a rider that is at least capable of beating other reserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 850 Posted December 29, 2017 In team building terms, IMO you only need one reserve that will win races, if Sarjeant is only going to have 3 rides because Newman (or Bates/whoever when Newman moves into the top 5) why waste the 1.81 team building points to the detriment of your top 5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Col said: In team building terms, IMO you only need one reserve that will win races, if Sarjeant is only going to have 3 rides because Newman (or Bates/whoever when Newman moves into the top 5) why waste the 1.81 team building points to the detriment of your top 5? Yes I agree but surely you need a rider that can compete with other number 7's or it is a likely zero points for those 3 rides. It seems likely that Sarjeant will be a 2.56 and is well worth that average in my opinion, very difficult to improve the team much with only a extra .56 to play with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Col said: In team building terms, IMO you only need one reserve that will win races, if Sarjeant is only going to have 3 rides because Newman (or Bates/whoever when Newman moves into the top 5) why waste the 1.81 team building points to the detriment of your top 5? Sarj will be about 2.6. So at best they could have saved 0.6 of a point and there is not a single 2 pointer who is as good as Sarj, especially now they have changed the start regs. Think of all them races where Sarj gates first and it gets called back and he then runs a last, now make them 2 or 3 points for him and suddenly you have a 5-6 point rider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted December 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, SCB said: Sarj will be about 2.6. So at best they could have saved 0.6 of a point and there is not a single 2 pointer who is as good as Sarj, especially now they have changed the start regs. Think of all them races where Sarj gates first and it gets called back and he then runs a last, now make them 2 or 3 points for him and suddenly you have a 5-6 point rider. what are the new start regs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, foreverblue said: what are the new start regs? Don't touch the tapes, the start doesn't get called back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,081 Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SCB said: Don't touch the tapes, the start doesn't get called back. Don't know why Hans hasn't been re-signed then!! Didn't even know the new rules and regs had been released! Edited December 29, 2017 by foreverblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted December 29, 2017 24 minutes ago, SCB said: Don't touch the tapes, the start doesn't get called back. Where has this been confirmed please? I haven't seen it published yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted December 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Where has this been confirmed please? I haven't seen it published yet. It was in the reports after the AGM, the warnings have been scrapped as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695 Posted December 29, 2017 Warnings scrapped and no restarts is what was stated Nothing about what will happen to the rider though. They may just get away with it or they could be excluded retrospectively...... As ever no clarity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted December 29, 2017 The problem is, if a rider touches the tapes but the race continues, and he team rides to a 5-1 with his partner, blocking every attempt for the opposing rider to pass, then get excluded after the race, he would had an influence on the race by team riding. Rather he was excluded, with riders having to go immediately around to the start, with no reserve replacement in the heat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: The problem is, if a rider touches the tapes but the race continues, and he team rides to a 5-1 with his partner, blocking every attempt for the opposing rider to pass, then get excluded after the race, he would had an influence on the race by team riding. Rather he was excluded, with riders having to go immediately around to the start, with no reserve replacement in the heat. There was no mention of retrospective exclusions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
