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1 minute ago, DC2 said:

 

That’s the problem. You’re judging him on results rather than on whether he’s a Leicester rider through and through. It’s your Poole mentality of taking anyone any year, whether they be journeymen or one season wonders, as long as you win, rather than sticking by riders and building a Poole brand. Swindon picked Leigh Adams every year, you chopped and changed Chris Holder until he gave up on you. Now look what you’re left with, a right rag bag assortment.

How ironic, Jason Doyle springs to mind when loyalty is mentioned!

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2 minutes ago, Odds On said:

How ironic, Jason Doyle springs to mind when loyalty is mentioned!

Yes and no. We stayed loyal to Nick Morris who’s been with us longer as we had to choose only one 8 point rider.

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15 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

That’s the problem. You’re judging him on results rather than on whether he’s a Leicester rider through and through. It’s your Poole mentality of taking anyone any year, whether they be journeymen or one season wonders, as long as you win, rather than sticking by riders and building a Poole brand. Swindon picked Leigh Adams every year, you chopped and changed Chris Holder until he gave up on you. Now look what you’re left with, a right rag bag assortment.

Chris holder didn't give up on us. I think you will find a successful team is built on results not misplaced loyalty.

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1 minute ago, foreverblue said:

Chris holder didn't give up on us. I think you will find a successful team is built on results not misplaced loyalty.

 

Successful team (one season), yes; successful club (many seasons), no.

 

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6 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

Successful team (one season), yes; successful club (many seasons), no. Your team is unrecognisable from the team a couple of seasons ago, were you loyal to Batchelor letting him go for a couple of seasons.

 

We have had many successful seasons .

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12 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

Successful team (one season), yes; successful club (many seasons), no.

 

Swindon are in the same position. The only way to define a successful club is by owning their own stadia. Swindon have been a successful team in recent history, the club as a whole is on the brink = unsuccessful. Good team, bad business model.

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1 hour ago, DC2 said:

Leicester are welcome to their journeymen signings. Hopefully Swindon will stand by their team.

Scott Nicholls isn't a journeyman... according to the website he's a hearthrob :rofl:

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4 hours ago, Col said:

Seems strange if Leicester is so gate & go to sign the likes of Nicholls, Robson & Auty who can't gate for toffee.

The difference is even if they can't gate these 3 will always have a go and not just sit back and accept whatever position they are in,  leading to 'follow the leader' racing. Riders can and do pass regularly on the Leicester track but unfortunately it's usually the visiting ones. :lol: Looking forward to seeing Scott's wide outside line on the 4th bend again. 

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17 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

Surely axing the Pole was a financial decision Steve he has been up and down but generally has done well he has ability as well.

It’s certainly got to be a key factor I’d say.

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Well you go away for a few days and come back to find a new team!

Bjerre - the epitomy of dullness, to be fair he was signed to fill a gap at short notice

Krystian - a great shame the early promise has faded, he didn't seem to be much of a team-man though

Kurtz - don't know how he lasted so long, another stopgap

Sarj - maybe another time

I think the new line up has much more of a team feel to it. I can understand why they went for Nicholls and hope that Connor Mountain gets a fair run and not binned after one month. 

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14 hours ago, flagrag said:

Some of the team changes that have just been made at Leicester are just because of averages not fitting for example James Sargeant he would have been kept instead of Mountain but his average is too high.

From what I have heard the rationale behind KP going to be replaced by Auty is the amount of away meetings to be completed where it is believed Auty will score .

Another consideration was if the club had not replaced Krystian today and he rode at Swindon his average would have gone up as his official average would be higher than his current assessed one due to some previous high scores at home.

With Bjere his performance has not been up to the expectations especially in the big heat 13 and 15 situations.

The changes may not work but after the last two meetings they needed to try something 

if its down to averages again its a joke how bad must the young brits like james and conner feel when they do well and up their average

only to be told sorry your out as now your average is to high for us to replace the so called big hitter as he has been crap

bpsa are totally clueless things don't change soon then you will start to lose promising riders let alone fans.

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Reasonably confident there wont be any more changes after these 4 given the closeness to the Aug 12 Cut-Off date whereby no changes are allowed unless through rider injury god forbid.

True that Nicholls, Robson and Auty not renowned for their Gating prowess but also as most of remaining matches are actually away from BP ( 4 H 9 A ? ) not such a bad thing ....

Anyway at least we have a team of triers now - not much more we can do ....

Cheers

 

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21 hours ago, flagrag said:

Some of the team changes that have just been made at Leicester are just because of averages not fitting for example James Sargeant he would have been kept instead of Mountain but his average is too high.

From what I have heard the rationale behind KP going to be replaced by Auty is the amount of away meetings to be completed where it is believed Auty will score .

Another consideration was if the club had not replaced Krystian today and he rode at Swindon his average would have gone up as his official average would be higher than his current assessed one due to some previous high scores at home.

With Bjere his performance has not been up to the expectations especially in the big heat 13 and 15 situations.

The changes may not work but after the last two meetings they needed to try something 

A few weeks ago that would certainly have been the case, Krystian's average was well over 7, but his  average had dropped to 6.36, so 0.14 under his assessed average, he would have had to have scored big at Swindon to push it over his 6.50 assessed. I don't know what happens when a rider completes his 4h & 4a, if as  in Krystian's case it would have been 9h & 4a, do all 9 home fixtures count or is it the 4 latest or 2 best scores/2 worst? Doesn't seem fair to include 9 home meetings. Infact if you take his last 4 at home & his 3 completed away matches, his average would only be 5.57, so a low score against Swindon in his 4th away match could have seen him at reserve ( that's if they use the most recent 4 home scores, not all 9).

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1 hour ago, stevethelion said:

A few weeks ago that would certainly have been the case, Krystian's average was well over 7, but his  average had dropped to 6.36, so 0.14 under his assessed average, he would have had to have scored big at Swindon to push it over his 6.50 assessed. I don't know what happens when a rider completes his 4h & 4a, if as  in Krystian's case it would have been 9h & 4a, do all 9 home fixtures count or is it the 4 latest or 2 best scores/2 worst? Doesn't seem fair to include 9 home meetings. Infact if you take his last 4 at home & his 3 completed away matches, his average would only be 5.57, so a low score against Swindon in his 4th away match could have seen him at reserve ( that's if they use the most recent 4 home scores, not all 9).

Suspect there were other factors at work, in addition to his drop in performance. 

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2 hours ago, stevethelion said:

A few weeks ago that would certainly have been the case, Krystian's average was well over 7, but his  average had dropped to 6.36, so 0.14 under his assessed average, he would have had to have scored big at Swindon to push it over his 6.50 assessed. I don't know what happens when a rider completes his 4h & 4a, if as  in Krystian's case it would have been 9h & 4a, do all 9 home fixtures count or is it the 4 latest or 2 best scores/2 worst? Doesn't seem fair to include 9 home meetings. Infact if you take his last 4 at home & his 3 completed away matches, his average would only be 5.57, so a low score against Swindon in his 4th away match could have seen him at reserve ( that's if they use the most recent 4 home scores, not all 9).

All meetings wouldve been used

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