Woz01 3,589 Posted December 12, 2017 52 minutes ago, Baldyman said: In your opinion they don't and in my opinion they do It's not an opinion. From the completed championship teams I don' think any are near the 42.5 limit when using premiership averages for the riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Irrelevant what your opinion is, they are factually nowhere near. It's a nonsensical statement. However, to give you a chance, name TWO (as you said some) Championship teams that are stronger. You will give me a chance lol...wow you think you are something special don't you...got news for you fella. Edited December 12, 2017 by Baldyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,779 Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) In other words you can't! Edited December 12, 2017 by Bagpuss 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted December 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Baldyman said: You will give me a chance lol...wow you think you are something special don't you...got news for you fella. Yes, I know. The news is, there aren't any Championship teams that are stronger. Glad we've established that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted December 12, 2017 I don't really care if I can or not....you speedway fans take everything so serious.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I don't really care if I can or not....you speedway fans take everything so serious.... You're not a speedway fan now? 7,898 posts on a forum of a sport you're not a fan of? I assume these means your post was made in jest and we weren't meant to take it seriously.. all good then! Edited December 12, 2017 by BWitcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: You're not a speedway fan now? 7,898 posts on a forum of a sport you're not a fan of? I can take it or leave it now....and I don't take it as serious as some. .its just a mickey mouse sport that I sometimes go and watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJWolves 82 Posted December 12, 2017 I don't think this Wolves team is bad compared to how the other teams will likely finalise. What is disappointing is that in terms of quality the British top flight just keeps getting weaker every year. Always reminds me of when the Bhatti Brothers were running Wolverhampton Wanderers. The crowds are down so sell some players. So the crowds go down more so sell more players and so the story went on until the club were in Division 4. Since then there has been investment and now Molineux isn't big enough to hold the numbers that will want to watch them in the Premier League. But Speedway is on that downward spiral and the number of GP riders that ride in the UK gets less every year as we have a second rate product compared to Poland and Sweden. I know Wolves and Swindon will say that the rules forced them to release Lindgren and Doyle but given the lack of TV money did those rules just make it easier for them to break the news to fans that they were going to go for a cheaper option. Will we ever reach the point where the sport invests to get back the lost supporters? And instead of bemoaning the loss of TV money shouldn't they instead be asking why no tv company particularly wants to cover this league. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paddy The Rebel 300 Posted December 12, 2017 57 minutes ago, DJWolves said: I don't think this Wolves team is bad compared to how the other teams will likely finalise. What is disappointing is that in terms of quality the British top flight just keeps getting weaker every year. Always reminds me of when the Bhatti Brothers were running Wolverhampton Wanderers. The crowds are down so sell some players. So the crowds go down more so sell more players and so the story went on until the club were in Division 4. Since then there has been investment and now Molineux isn't big enough to hold the numbers that will want to watch them in the Premier League. But Speedway is on that downward spiral and the number of GP riders that ride in the UK gets less every year as we have a second rate product compared to Poland and Sweden. I know Wolves and Swindon will say that the rules forced them to release Lindgren and Doyle but given the lack of TV money did those rules just make it easier for them to break the news to fans that they were going to go for a cheaper option. Will we ever reach the point where the sport invests to get back the lost supporters? And instead of bemoaning the loss of TV money shouldn't they instead be asking why no tv company particularly wants to cover this league. Absolutley spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Lefty said: Looks like £10 speedway has arrived in the Premiership! Yeah but you'll still be expected to pay £18 for it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,359 Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, DJWolves said: I don't think this Wolves team is bad compared to how the other teams will likely finalise. What is disappointing is that in terms of quality the British top flight just keeps getting weaker every year. Always reminds me of when the Bhatti Brothers were running Wolverhampton Wanderers. The crowds are down so sell some players. So the crowds go down more so sell more players and so the story went on until the club were in Division 4. Since then there has been investment and now Molineux isn't big enough to hold the numbers that will want to watch them in the Premier League. But Speedway is on that downward spiral and the number of GP riders that ride in the UK gets less every year as we have a second rate product compared to Poland and Sweden. I know Wolves and Swindon will say that the rules forced them to release Lindgren and Doyle but given the lack of TV money did those rules just make it easier for them to break the news to fans that they were going to go for a cheaper option. Will we ever reach the point where the sport invests to get back the lost supporters? And instead of bemoaning the loss of TV money shouldn't they instead be asking why no tv company particularly wants to cover this league. It getting more obvious why it should have been 1 big league IMO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dabbsjoe 149 Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: It getting more obvious why it should have been 1 big league IMO that may be where we end up next season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Yes, I know. The news is, there aren't any Championship teams that are stronger. Glad we've established that. The 2nd division is always going to be way weaker than the top flight. Last year was the weakest top flight in history yet still the 2nd tier best got thumped by easily the weakest top flight team. Every season we hear the same thing. Truth is the 2nd tier is still much weaker than the top tier and it's nearly a certainty that 2018 will be the weakest top flight ever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted December 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, stevebrum said: The 2nd division is always going to be way weaker than the top flight. Last year was the weakest top flight in history yet still the 2nd tier best got thumped by easily the weakest top flight team. Every season we hear the same thing. Truth is the 2nd tier is still much weaker than the top tier and it's nearly a certainty that 2018 will be the weakest top flight ever! Although Lakeside do get Nick Morris on a lower average than Swindon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double_O 257 Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Baldyman said: Wow... Some of the championship teams look stronger Although Wolves look weaker for 2018......using 2017 championsip averages; Howarth 8.62 Masters 8.57 Schlein 8.58 Heeps 6.93 Morris 4.88 Greaves 4.51 Thorssell 10.36 (EL ave x 1.2) Total 52.45 As others have asked, can you name any Championship side anywhere near as strong? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
