Theboss 727 Posted October 29, 2017 don't you think the sport here is in enough 5hit without trying to encourage most of them back!!! unbelievable Well said Steve, seems some are oblivious to the main issue speedway currently faces.... Spiralling costs 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfsbane 12,944 Posted October 29, 2017 And how will these riders be paid assuming their is no sky TV money? There hasn't been any Sky TV money this year has there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theboss 727 Posted October 29, 2017 There hasn't been any Sky TV money this year has there? 2017 was the final year of TV money so Philip rising has informed us via this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 29, 2017 Well said Steve, seems some are oblivious to the main issue speedway currently faces.... Spiralling costs The main issue is lack of crowds .Football has massive spiralling costs in wages but because the product and standard are good it pays it's way . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theboss 727 Posted October 29, 2017 The main issue is lack of crowds .Football has massive spiralling costs in wages but because the product and standard are good it pays it's way . I can assure you that football does not pay its way for 95% of the clubs. Again it has allowed wages to spiral out of control. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted October 29, 2017 The main issue is lack of crowds .Football has massive spiralling costs in wages but because the product and standard are good it pays it's way . You can't force spectators to attend but you could introduce cost cutting measures. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BANANAMAN 330 Posted October 29, 2017 foamfence, on 29 Oct 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:You can't force spectators to attend but you could introduce cost cutting measures. II fail to understand why every end of season the majority of Promotions say they have lost money , so why do they continue in the same vein year on year ? Surely NOW is the time for them all to get together as a group ( haves & have not's ) & come up with a sustainable plan for ALL clubs to survive & thrive ? The guess when the Speedway is on & are they still riding question is ask by many people I work with !! Another question ..Would it be possible for a COVENTRY BEES team to ride at another track e.g Peterboro ,Leicester or Brum ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted October 29, 2017 II fail to understand why every end of season the majority of Promotions say they have lost money , so why do they continue in the same vein year on year ? Surely NOW is the time for them all to get together as a group ( haves & have not's ) & come up with a sustainable plan for ALL clubs to survive & thrive ? The guess when the Speedway is on & are they still riding question is ask by many people I work with !! Another question ..Would it be possible for a COVENTRY BEES team to ride at another track e.g Peterboro ,Leicester or Brum ? They don't stick together, there's always someone who breaks ranks, twists the rules, or accepts inducements. The only way to make them work together, would be for the BSPA and SCB to have complete authority, then again, the current leader doesn't come across as having the capacity. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfsbane 12,944 Posted October 29, 2017 2017 was the final year of TV money so Philip rising has informed us via this forum. Blimey, Sky paying for something and getting nothing! Who ever did that deal needs promoting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Blimey, Sky paying for something and getting nothing! Who ever did that deal needs promoting. They wanted to get away from all the setting up costs for meetings, some of which were rained off etc, so I believe as they had a contract still running they were happy to pay the clubs the agreed amounts with BT picking up the setting up costs. So Sky got out of a costly contract and BT got a sport cheaper than it would have normally cost. Edited October 29, 2017 by A ORLOV 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) You can't force spectators to attend but you could introduce cost cutting measures. The cost cutting measures and making the standard lower has been the same plan for last the 20 years ...not really worked has it ? Edited October 29, 2017 by orion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted October 29, 2017 The cost cutting measures and making the standard lower has been the same plan for last the 20 years ...not really worked has it ? There haven't been any, the attempts to standardise equipment have never been stuck to or come to fruition, as for lowering standards? Well in the 'last 20 years' top riders can now make a living in Poland and Sweden and the GPs but the World Champion says that he'll be here next season and he's about as high a standard as there is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 29, 2017 There haven't been any, the attempts to standardise equipment have never been stuck to or come to fruition, as for lowering standards? Well in the 'last 20 years' top riders can now make a living in Poland and Sweden and the GPs but the World Champion says that he'll be here next season and he's about as high a standard as there is. Ever if Jason does ride here the standard has got lower and lower overall in the last 20 years as have the crowds ...you must be the only person who thinks otherwise . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theboss 727 Posted October 29, 2017 Ever if Jason does ride here the standard has got lower and lower overall in the last 20 years as have the crowds ...you must be the only person who thinks otherwise . According to Philip Rising, there is also one other person who thinks crowds are up this season. I can not for one minute imagine this is true but if you say it enough times I am sure other people will start to believe you... 🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted October 29, 2017 At certain tracks the crowd may be up...Redcar for example. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
