Stoneroses 14 Posted December 17, 2017 Don't think this will be sorted before Christmas, but hope both Josh and Kyle will be back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,213 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) if Kyle doesn't want to ride for Workington he wont be, and if Workington try to stop him riding I think it could be classed as a restriction of trade, especially as Workington don't own him, in the way the no speedway clubs really own riders Edited December 17, 2017 by The Third Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted December 17, 2017 who owns kyle now then ? bit of a silly statement thereĀ saying worky dont own him . so who owns him . it was kyle who brought the whole thing up in saying , it depends on workington . so if we dont own him, why did he say that ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted December 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, The Third Man said: if Kyle doesn't want to ride for Workington he wont be, and if Workington try to stop him riding I think it could be classed as a restriction of trade, especially as Workington don't own him, in the way the no speedway clubs really own riders But they do own his registration to ride.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,213 Posted December 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Tsunami said: But they do own his registration to ride.Ā Under what employment law Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Under what employment law SCB regulations, which all involved parties have agreed to uphold. From the preface of those regulations; "The fact that rules made by a Sports Governing Body have legal authority and are upheld in our courts is not always appreciated; therefore Promotions (including all its Members and/or Directors), riders, all persons, licensed or otherwise authorised to enter, participate or officiate at Speedway Meetings are legally bound by them."Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,089 Posted December 17, 2017 50 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Under what employment law They are self-employed but clubs own riders registrations which is offset against the BSPA bond which is why it is beneficial for clubs to have assets. Ā In this case Workington have Howarth as a club asset so any club wanting to have Howarth in there team would need to agree with Workington, hence why Howarth saying himself it is up to Workington.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted December 17, 2017 i most cases , a club will never stand in the way of a rider who wants to better himself in his chosen sport/job . unless u r havvy . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,213 Posted December 18, 2017 23 hours ago, Gazc said: They are self-employed but clubs own riders registrations which is offset against the BSPA bond which is why it is beneficial for clubs to have assets. Ā In this case Workington have Howarth as a club asset so any club wanting to have Howarth in there team would need to agree with Workington, hence why Howarth saying himself it is up to Workington.Ā Didnt realise that, but why would Workington want an unhappy rider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,089 Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Didnt realise that, but why would Workington want an unhappy rider They won't they will ask in all likelihood if he wants to ride for them but if the rider declines then he is circulated as available for loan or as may happen a full transfer. Ā Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, The Third Man said: Didnt realise that, but why would Workington want an unhappy rider Ā i thought that loan fees were based on the riders average . Ā Gazc is spot on with hisĀ Ā post above . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted December 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, jenga said: Ā i thought that loan fees were based on the riders average . Ā Gazc is spot on with hisĀ Ā post above . They are. The averages are split into bands, and each band has a rate, more for the higher bands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackadder 280 Posted December 20, 2017 According to the Sheffield Star, the Comets either want Kyle to ride for them, or sell him, but not go on loan. Kyle wants to ride for Sheffield, so things are currently in deadlock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balderdash&piffle 720 Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, jenga said: FAKE NEWS ! Trumped again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites