Is It A Ride?

[SCB 0]

If a rider cuts across the centre green and is excluded, do we know if this is considered a ride for the purpose of averages? I see in August 8th at Lynn the referee marked down MPT as a tapes exclusion but surely thats not right is it?

[Alan_Jones 1,005]

It's a starting offence like tapes and all the others and the ref should mark them all up the same.

[SCB 0]

It's a starting offence like tapes and all the others and the ref should mark them all up the same.

Thanks.

 

Totally illogical but this is the BSPA (or the SCB actually)

Edited November 8, 2017 by SCB

[Grachan 7,362]

How can it be a ride if the rider wasn't under starters orders?

 

A tapes offence is a ride. A 2 minutes exclusion isn't. (Or, at least, it never used to be.)

 

This seems more in line with a 2 minutes exclusion as the rider never made the start line.

[False dawn 2,298]

This is obviously the season to be silly.

So.....

All 4 go to the tapes and the race starts. The ref puts on the red lights for an unsatisfactory start and one of the riders cuts across the centre green/black/grey (delete as applicable). What then?

[balderdash&piffle 720]

This is obviously the season to be silly.

So.....

All 4 go to the tapes and the race starts. The ref puts on the red lights for an unsatisfactory start and one of the riders cuts across the centre green/black/grey (delete as applicable). What then?

He gets grass in his tyres.

[waytogo28 2,054]

He gets grass in his tyres.

 

He is excluded for a"tapes offence". They lump all such crimes together.

[balderdash&piffle 720]

 

He is excluded for a"tapes offence". They lump all such crimes together.

Still gets grass in his tyres, end of the world

[f-s-p 832]

Why would M (as in 2 mins exclusion) would not be classified as a ride? It was your heat, and (usually) a selfimposef reason you did not take part in it.

[arnieg 3,638]

Why would M (as in 2 mins exclusion) would not be classified as a ride? It was your heat, and (usually) a selfimposef reason you did not take part in it.

Unlike most other countries a two minute exclusion is not counted as a ride in the UK for the purposes of averages or complying with minimum ride rules. It does count for the purposes of maximum rides.

[Tsunami 10,219]

Unlike most other countries a two minute exclusion is not counted as a ride in the UK for the purposes of averages or complying with minimum ride rules. It does count for the purposes of maximum rides.

A little while ago, a high profile rider was threatening to sit out a race to get excluded, to get out of the meeting, thinking his ride would count for his mandatory three rides. He was told it wouldn't count , and was advised not to think about breaking the tapes either. Hmmm, top man as well.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Tsunami

[SCB 0]

A little while ago, a high profile rider was threatening to sit out a race to get excluded, to get out of the meeting, thinking his ride would count for his mandatory three rides. He was told it wouldn't count , and was advised not to think about breaking the tapes either. Hmmm, top man as well.

Yeah, Chris Holder. He got a ban too!

 

And it does count as a ride if the rider is not replaced.

[bigcatdiary 3,165]

Comes under 15.3 as a starting offence.

[f-s-p 832]

And it does count as a ride if the rider is not replaced.

I think there are enough ways to fiddle with avgs, so just make it vount in every case. = /

[SCB 0]

I think there are enough ways to fiddle with avgs, so just make it vount in every case. = /

Thats a bigger fiddle your way. Rider comes out for his 4th ride, touches the tapes and is replaced but for average purposes he now score 0 from 1 lowering his average. It's one of the things the BSPA/SCB have right.