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Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?

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24 minutes ago, jrs said:

Well it appears that Adolf Johnson has ignored advice and says he has confidence in the poison dwarf.

Torys sink even lower every day. 

 

Surprised to see a leftie expressing such a slur on dwarfism.

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25 minutes ago, jrs said:

Well it appears that Adolf Johnson has ignored advice and says he has confidence in the poison dwarf.

Torys sink even lower every day. 

 

Now there's a surprise. Somehow I think that we haven't heard the end of this little episode.

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MAY be swimming against the tide here but glad she has kept her job. Not a big fan of civil servants with their huge salaries, gold plated pensions, job protection whether or not they are suited to the role for which they are employed.

 

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But what's the point of having a process and then ignoring (largely) the findings of that process?

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The swamp is draining itself. More resignations please:t:

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10 minutes ago, salty said:

But what's the point of having a process and then ignoring (largely) the findings of that process?

I can't see her lasting long despite assurances from Johnson. Another inept Home Secretary with plenty of rhetoric but little substance..

 

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16 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

MAY be swimming against the tide here but glad she has kept her job. Not a big fan of civil servants with their huge salaries, gold plated pensions, job protection whether or not they are suited to the role for which they are employed.

How do you know how suited they are to their jobs, or are you yet again parroting what you read in the Mail? 

In many cases, and especially in the case of senior civil servants, they could earn significantly more in industry which is one of the reasons they have reasonable pensions. And given that ministers seem to think they can bully and dismiss them at a whim, do they really have the job protection you're claiming?

It's quite clear that Priti Patel is a thoroughly nasty piece of work - one who also previously undermined her PM and government policy. It's yet another cover-up by the venal BoJo administration, except it's not even a cover-up - it's blatantly ignoring a report on her bad behaviour and sending a message that's perfectly fine in the workplace...

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11 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

MAY be swimming against the tide here but glad she has kept her job. Not a big fan of civil servants with their huge salaries, gold plated pensions, job protection whether or not they are suited to the role for which they are employed.

 

...bit like Government Ministers really.

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4 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

How do you know how suited they are to their jobs, or are you yet again parroting what you read in the Mail? 

In many cases, and especially in the case of senior civil servants, they could earn significantly more in industry which is one of the reasons they have reasonable pensions. And given that ministers seem to think they can bully and dismiss them at a whim, do they really have the job protection you're claiming?

It's quite clear that Priti Patel is a thoroughly nasty piece of work - one who also previously undermined her PM and government policy. It's yet another cover-up by the venal BoJo administration, except it's not even a cover-up - it's blatantly ignoring her bad behaviour and sending a message that perfectly fine in the workplace...

ARE you capable of posting anything without "what you read in the Mail? "In fact, haven't even read the DM since the story broke.  It might be quite clear in your mind  that Patel is a nasty piece of work but that is no more than a personal opinion not fact.

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8 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

...bit like Government Ministers really.

PROBABLY right but the process for choosing Ministers (from a pool of MPs) is different from choosing civil servants to head a specific department.

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4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

PROBABLY right but the process for choosing Ministers (from a pool of MPs) is different from choosing civil servants to head a specific department.

...and a pretty murky one at that!

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7 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

ARE you capable of posting anything without "what you read in the Mail? "In fact, haven't even read the DM since the story broke.  It might be quite clear in your mind  that Patel is a nasty piece of work but that is no more than a personal opinion not fact.

What is laughable is that folks still think the Daily Mail, which was a right facing publication, but swung to the left in 2018 when Greig arrived, is still a paper of the right:rofl:

 

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1 minute ago, Wolfsbane said:

What is laughable is that folks still think the Daily Mail, which was a right facing publication, but swung to the left in 2018 when Greig arrived, is still a paper of the right:rofl:

 

WOULDN'T go so far as to say it is 'left' but obviously not as right as when the previous editor held the reins. DM has never really been a fan of Johnson. 

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TALKING of civil servants ...

From the Daily Telegraph just now...

Lazy civil servants are responsible for a £5 billion rise in the cost of HS2, a report by Parliament's spending watchdog warns today.

The National Audit Office said a proposed £5 billion saving in April 2017 never materialised because bureaucrats in charge of the project "did not put enough effort into developing the actions necessary to realise them".

The Government's estimated total spend on the high-speed rail line has risen from an initial £30 billion in 2010 to almost £90 billion.

In a report published today, the NAO identifies major failings in the civil service’s handling of several other multi-billion pound Government projects, including Crossrail and the Royal Navy’s aircraft carrier-building programme.

It accuses civil servants of having issues with “transparency and honesty” and notes that “organisational cultures” are  “preventing the right information from emerging”.

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