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Did The Scb Hearing Scheduled For Tuesday 7/11 Take Place?

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5 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

Were they? Would Holder and Rathbone (well Rathbone anyway) have taken that course of action if Godfrey hadn't given the green light.

He told them it was wrong and against the rules and would result in a fine.

Overstepped the mark suggesting the level of the fine incorrectly perhaps....

Breaking the rules just because you think you can get away with it is still breaking the rules.....

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18 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

He told them it was wrong and against the rules and would result in a fine.

Overstepped the mark suggesting the level of the fine incorrectly perhaps....

Breaking the rules just because you think you can get away with it is still breaking the rules.....

He allegedly didn't say not to do it though, in fact far from it it would seem. You'd expect someone in authority to make it quite clear that there is no grey area here. The rules say that you can't do it and that's my advice. If you do anything else then you get everything that you deserve. That is in the best interests of British Speedway, not the wishy washy conversation Godfrey and Rathbone apparently had.

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Seems to me the ACU appeal virtually vindicated Rathbone and pointed the light firmly at Godfrey and BSPA . Significant that BSPA failed to publish or report any of this. The outcome of any Godfrey hearing seems to have been prejudged as he was re appointed prior to the hearing.

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As expected a total whitewash for "Honest" Rob Godfrey. BSPA and SCB closed ranks to protect their man regardless of their actions.

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37 minutes ago, waytogo28 said:

As expected a total whitewash for "Honest" Rob Godfrey. BSPA and SCB closed ranks to protect their man regardless of their actions.

'a friend should always underestimate your virtues and an enemy overestimate your faults'

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40 minutes ago, waytogo28 said:

As expected a total whitewash for "Honest" Rob Godfrey. BSPA and SCB closed ranks to protect their man regardless of their actions.

Can you smell that? What is that? Sheep is it? It's cows? No, no, I know what it is. It's bull****;)!

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14 hours ago, Crump99 said:

He allegedly didn't say not to do it though, in fact far from it it would seem. You'd expect someone in authority to make it quite clear that there is no grey area here. The rules say that you can't do it and that's my advice. If you do anything else then you get everything that you deserve. That is in the best interests of British Speedway, not the wishy washy conversation Godfrey and Rathbone apparently had.

He gave an opinion based on the rules which are made by the SCB not BSPA.

Since when has there NOT been grey areas in the rules. Yourselves & Newcastle did not send your top 4 by averages which is the main point in your declared team. 

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3 minutes ago, IronScorpion said:

He gave an opinion based on the rules which are made by the SCB not BSPA.

Since when has there NOT been grey areas in the rules. Yourselves & Newcastle did not send your top 4 by averages which is the main point in your declared team. 

Peterborough had a choice.  Newcastle didn't.

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4 minutes ago, StevePark said:

Peterborough had a choice.  Newcastle didn't.

Lambert was fit one day,had an injury the next day, was fit again the next to pick & chose when he wanted to represent Newcastle in the Pairs & Fours!

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2 hours ago, StevePark said:

Peterborough had a choice.  Newcastle didn't.

Why do you persist with that line, you know it’s pure bullshyte.

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5 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

He gave an opinion based on the rules which are made by the SCB not BSPA.

Since when has there NOT been grey areas in the rules. Yourselves & Newcastle did not send your top 4 by averages which is the main point in your declared team. 

The SCB didn't say that it was an opinion:

"The panel also recommended no further action taken against Mr Rathbone, but the advice given by Mr Godfrey was both ill chosen and in Breach of Speedway Regulation 3.2.7."

Rathbone asked for advice from a senior BSPA official regarding speedway's rules, so to plead ignorance when the brown stuff hits the fan because technically they are not our rules really is clutching at straws.

 

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7 hours ago, Crump99 said:

The SCB didn't say that it was an opinion:

"The panel also recommended no further action taken against Mr Rathbone, but the advice given by Mr Godfrey was both ill chosen and in Breach of Speedway Regulation 3.2.7."

Rathbone asked for advice from a senior BSPA official regarding speedway's rules, so to plead ignorance when the brown stuff hits the fan because technically they are not our rules really is clutching at straws.

 

Are you on a wind up or something? you're trying to vindicate the guy who did wrong by saying he was given incorrct advice but your ignoring the fact thet Rathbone wanted to do something dodgy and in fact did it. The advise was ill advised  for sure but Rathbone was the main culprit.

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9 hours ago, Lewis said:

Are you on a wind up or something? you're trying to vindicate the guy who did wrong by saying he was given incorrct advice but your ignoring the fact thet Rathbone wanted to do something dodgy and in fact did it. The advise was ill advised  for sure but Rathbone was the main culprit.

He was rightly punished for it at the end of the day no thanks to the BSPA who thought if they punished him hard enough with a massive out of all proportion fine they could get rid of him altogether and then stick there own puppet in to promote at the showground . luckily Ged got some good legal advice and was able to put his case to the ACU who overturned the £ 28,000 fine to a realistic and sensible £3,000. Yes he did wrong and i'm not proud of him for doing it .Yet the vice chairman has been vindicated by BSPA pals in the best interests of British speedway for giving misleading advice. 

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Godfrey should have stood down, having brought the sport into disrepute ( by the standards of other sports ). But in speedway, no, you are a True Blazer Gent.

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15 hours ago, Lewis said:

Are you on a wind up or something? you're trying to vindicate the guy who did wrong by saying he was given incorrct advice but your ignoring the fact thet Rathbone wanted to do something dodgy and in fact did it. The advise was ill advised  for sure but Rathbone was the main culprit.

I tend to wind people up but not on a wind up no. I've said before that if Rathbone did receive a phone call from Poland and told them that we can't speak to you then that's where it should have stopped. The fact is that he asked for and was allegedly advised that the benefit of doing something "dodgy" outweighed the slap on the wrist that he might get so it was worth the risk. The action does still make Rathbone the main culprit (and he was punished for it) but what would you have done? You have bills to pay and a high ranking official advises that you'll make more than you'll lose from the deal whilst getting minor grief from the powers that be for transgressing the rules.

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