Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted November 15, 2017 Statement still on the SCB website though.. It's been put back then, was missing earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 15, 2017 Not when you are in the dark. Please enlighten us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 15, 2017 Please enlighten us Why give me a 'like' then cancel it. Were you in the dark again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 15, 2017 Why give me a 'like' then cancel it. Were you in the dark again. Yes a power cut I am afraid. Awaiting for an explanation but seemingly a full investigation needed before reasons can be given. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 15, 2017 Yes a power cut I am afraid. Awaiting for an explanation but seemingly a full investigation needed before reasons can be given. Yes, as I have been saying, best to wait eh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 902 Posted November 15, 2017 ive just read the statement and even though im led to believe ged rathbone has done some things that i dont regard as fair and in the fair play of the sport im happy that it looks like hes not going to be punished any more and at least 1 other will be at least getting a slap on the wrist but i still cant see how holder has got away with it all he is just as guilty as ged if not more 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 15, 2017 ive just read the statement and even though im led to believe ged rathbone has done some things that i dont regard as fair and in the fair play of the sport im happy that it looks like hes not going to be punished any more and at least 1 other will be at least getting a slap on the wrist but i still cant see how holder has got away with it all he is just as guilty as ged if not more I for one did not and do not agree with what Rathbone has done, however I also believe his version of events 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New era Panthers 2,055 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) ; : The panel was of the opinion that the BSPA has now taken to itself too much power, and considers that the SCB should be the only body to ensure the rules are upheld. Decisions taken in this matter were not in the best interest of the sport. BSPA should take note of this vital piece of information, when it comes to making any kind of rule changing or how they uphold these rules proves they are not fit for purpose. Edited November 15, 2017 by New era Panthers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 902 Posted November 15, 2017 I for one did not and do not agree with what Rathbone has done, however I also believe his version of events and he did 1 thing holder with held his services muliply times unpunished ???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincent Blachshadow 2,936 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) ive just read the statement and even though im led to believe ged rathbone has done some things that i dont regard as fair and in the fair play of the sport im happy that it looks like hes not going to be punished any more and at least 1 other will be at least getting a slap on the wrist but i still cant see how holder has got away with it all he is just as guilty as ged if not more Because other promoters and some clubs are expendable, good riders aren't. Being an asset of certain clubs would probably be advantageous too. Edited November 16, 2017 by Vincent Blackshadow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spin king junior 394 Posted November 16, 2017 How much authority does the SCB actually have over the bspa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted November 16, 2017 but i still cant see how holder has got away with it all he is just as guilty as ged if not more and he did 1 thing holder with held his services muliply times unpunished ???? not saying that I agree with what he did, but did Holder break any rules ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New era Panthers 2,055 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) not saying that I agree with what he did, but did Holder break any rules ? In one sense no he didn't as he was given permission by Jed Rathbone to miss meetings to ride in Poland , but on the other hand he signed a contract to say he would ride for Panthers and Poole and as I don't believe he signed an agreement that waves that contract , then you have to assume he has broken the rules . He knew it was wrong and should be punished for it , give him a 3 months ban commencing at the start of the 2018 season regardless of what Peterborough or Poole think about it and let the Poles worry of how they will get around his visa problem . It will also send a message out to other riders to let them know British speedway won't tolerate those that think they can come to the U/K and just use us as a stepping stone over to Poland. Edited November 16, 2017 by New era Panthers 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted November 16, 2017 In one sense no he didn't as he was given permission by Jed Rathbone to miss meetings to ride in Poland , but on the other hand he signed a contract to say he would ride for Panthers and Poole and as I don't believe he signed an agreement that waves that contract , then you have to assume he has broken the rules . He knew it was wrong and should be punished for it , give him a 3 months ban commencing at the start of the 2018 season regardless of what Peterborough or Poole think about it and let the Poles worry of how they will get around his visa problem . It will also send a message out to other riders to let them know British speedway won't tolerate those that think they can come to the U/K and just use us as a stepping stone over to Poland. would it be right to punish some-one based on assumption ? If there was never a 'golden carrot' being dangled, you could surmise that it would never have happened. Hardly Holders fault, unless he instigated the whole lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crump99 4,474 Posted November 16, 2017 would it be right to punish some-one based on assumption ? If there was never a 'golden carrot' being dangled, you could surmise that it would never have happened. Hardly Holders fault, unless he instigated the whole lot. People are only assuming because I don't believe that anyone knows what the reasons were as mentioned on Aug 6: "If the rider had gone to Poland and raced without the permission of his club he would have been banned for withholding his services for 28 days - this is not the case with Jack Holder as his club have given him their blessing and we have evidence of the true reason. They have sold British Speedway down the river. Hancock's injury caused the problem but Holder knew his future diary just as anyone else does. He didn't need to instigate anything but did need to say that he's already committed on the dates required. I guess that he didn't when approached? Whether he did but something was still cobbled together by those involved, who knows? Guess we'll never know! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
