BL65 656 Posted November 16, 2017 OK folks -it seems we all agree on the first three riders of the list in terms of who would beat others at the top of their careers(I almost posted carers!!) . After Ronnie, Split and Olle -I put Rune Sormander as the fourth best- no disagreement yet posted there-so wh would you put #5-I would put Dick Bradley-taking into account his World Final Appearances and that he was still a heat leader at 40 and indeed appeared in the 1965 BL(best season ever) and may have carried on if not for Clive Featherby!! I think there is a case for Per Olof Soderman ahead of Dick Bradley. Peo was ahead on World Final appearances by 4 to 2, with both also making a final as reserve. Peo also finished in the top six in 5 European Finals and scored 10 points in the 1963 World Team Cup Final, when he was part of Sweden's winning team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Brian Crutcher could match most during that era. I can recall in bygone days BBC Sportsview sent cameras to Wembley for a league meeting between Lions and Wimbledon specially for the race between Crutcher and Tommy Price for Wembley and Moore and Briggs for Wimbledon . Result 5-1 to Wembley Edited November 16, 2017 by wealdstone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted November 16, 2017 I'm sure you're right about Brian Crutcher, Wealdstone, But, unfortunately, he's not on the list of oldest finalists - yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 16, 2017 I'm sure you're right about Brian Crutcher, Wealdstone, But, unfortunately, he's not on the list of oldest finalists - yet. Sorry thought he was same age as Ronnie Moore and Ove Fundin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 466 Posted November 16, 2017 Brian Crutcher could match most during that era. I can recall in bygone days BBC Sportsview sent cameras to Wembley for a league meeting between Lions and Wimbledon specially for the race between Crutcher and Tommy Price for Wembley and Moore and Briggs for Wimbledon . Result 5-1 to Wembley Firstly I agree with the BL65-Soderman is ahead of Bradley for #5-re the Crutcher thing-there are a whole bunch of famous riders born around 1933 and 34 e.g. Briggo-but it looks like Ove is the first reserve on the Oldest World Finalists list-not absolutely sure-could Norbold & BL65 tell us who are the people just behind Ove in age?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Brian Crutcher was born 23/08/1934, so he is one year and three months younger than Ove. Â I should add that Briggo was born 30 December 1934, so Brian Crutcher will make it to the list before he does! Edited November 17, 2017 by norbold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMac 720 Posted November 17, 2017 Yes, I think Arthur Payne is still with us.....Not sure about his birth date though, what I can find is, he was born 28.8.23 making him 94 now! Â Not only is Arthur Payne still with us, he has just been interviewed by John Chaplin for our next issue of Classic Speedway magazine (issue 39)! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 466 Posted November 17, 2017 That's great news about Arthur Payne- long may he be with us. Anyone know Briggo's dob-he must be about the same age as Ove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,090 Posted November 17, 2017 That's great news about Arthur Payne- long may he be with us. Anyone know Briggo's dob-he must be about the same age as Ove Norbold mentioned it just two posts before you asked, and it was mentioned again a few posts before that! Â It was 30 December 1934... Â Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 466 Posted November 17, 2017 Sorry everybody- I hope I am not in the early stages of dementia-my wife says I am because I can't/won't remember where the kitchen stuff is!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 17, 2017 Sorry everybody- I hope I am not in the early stages of dementia-my wife says I am because I can't/won't remember where the kitchen stuff is!! Best way BOBBATH - best way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andout 651 Posted November 17, 2017 Sorry everybody- I hope I am not in the early stages of dementia-my wife says I am because I can't/won't remember where the kitchen stuff is!! Trust me Bob....its contagious!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 466 Posted November 23, 2017 After all this comment re my mental state are there any more riders besides Brian Crutcher and Briggo who were born in 1933-34 who will be eligible for this list- Bjorn Knutsson maybe for example who I was privileged to see win his only World Title in 1965 (could have won more in my opinion-great rider!!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted November 23, 2017 After all this comment re my mental state are there any more riders besides Brian Crutcher and Briggo who were born in 1933-34 who will be eligible for this list- Bjorn Knutsson maybe for example who I was privileged to see win his only World Title in 1965 (could have won more in my opinion-great rider!!)How good was he "BOBBATH".? he is one of the greats from the 60s i never did get to see ride odviously a real CLASS act he would of won more titles.In your opinion was Bjorn better on the bigger racier circuits or the more technical ones ? New Cross was little yes. ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,243 Posted November 23, 2017 How good was he "BOBBATH".? he is one of the greats from the 60s i never did get to see ride odviously a real CLASS act he would of won more titles.In your opinion was Bjorn better on the bigger racier circuits or the more technical ones ? New Cross was little yes. ? A rider I would have liked to have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites