Stoke Potter 242 Posted November 26, 2017 'arnieg" that PLRC meeting at Belle Vue was some meeting different lines produced as the meeting went along the track is a credit to the sport in this country.Someone also said they thought the Peter Craven meeting there was a even better meeting the standard is high then what a treat it must be for all those Aces fans to view there everyweek. The reason i went to the PLRC was because the PC meeting was so good. Belle Vue is class! Or course there are less good meetings there, when the weather plays a part, and when the line-ups aren't well matched but these are issues to be solved in around 50 years time once everybody finally realises that the fundamental problem is that most British tracks are dire and needing fixing in one way or another. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Unfortunately not by me. Surely I'm not the only one who isn't really interested in Individual Meetings? You are right Gem. Individual meetings stopped becoming popular because the modern fans like to support their team. That is also shown by the disgust of the fans that have had to watch this teams made up of guests. It is now a team sport and I have heard staunch supporters say they wouldn't be at Brough the following week when there was an individual meeting on. Such meetings only attract some riders who want to try out something or when they need a booking for the money. Test matches were great in the distant past, when the choice of riders available made it viable with eager crowds. Riders were already in the country, and the crowds could pay the extra costs. Not now of course, if the teams were made up of riders already over here, and who would ride for the poor money offered, as the meetings would not raise the money for two teams of heatleader standard. Like football, fans want to watch their team and not a filler for the sake of it. I could enjoy, and do, watching meetings like Berwick's Star of Tomorrow junior meetings where up and coming ridings, supplemented with young foreign riders in the meeting, do battle to get noticed. Some good racing, but of course it's not everyone's cup of tea. Edited November 26, 2017 by Tsunami 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted November 26, 2017 Anyone care to comment factually on the rumour thats appeared on other threads that there is no longer a Premiership requirement to include 2 Brits (or 2 former/current NL riders)?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted November 26, 2017 I like the odd individual meeting. Id like to see a UK GP with each track staging a round. You could have 14 permanent riders with the other two places plus reserves being filled from the staging tracks team. The potential participants would need to be nailed down first and fully commit to all eight rounds and if they cannot you move down the list to find the next man. It would line up something like this....... Belle Vue Cook Fricke Kings Lynn Lambert Leicester Vaculik Nilsson Poole Kurtz Andersen Rye House Harris Nicholls Somerset Josh Swindon Morris Bellego Wolves Lindgren Masters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,939 Posted November 26, 2017 Think is true that most fans aren't interested in much other than their teams meetings.I made a few mistakes when I got back into speedway worrying about the size of the crowd,so got to a meeting early only to find it was one man and a dog there. Denmark v Sweden @U21 in both Denmark and Sweden or a World U21 final etc.At the Danish test meeting it seemed like I was the only fan there and all the rest were family members!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted November 26, 2017 I like the odd individual meeting. Id like to see a UK GP with each track staging a round. You could have 14 permanent riders with the other two places plus reserves being filled from the staging tracks team. The potential participants would need to be nailed down first and fully commit to all eight rounds and if they cannot you move down the list to find the next man. It would line up something like this....... Belle Vue Cook Fricke Kings Lynn Lambert Leicester Vaculik Nilsson Poole Kurtz Andersen Rye House Harris Nicholls Somerset Josh Swindon Morris Bellego Wolves Lindgren Masters Like it but I feel it would be more interesting with NO current GP riders in ( wether they ride in England or not ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted November 26, 2017 Hans Nielsen is looking at getting some early tests in for the young Danes,so maybe,hopefully one or two against a young Lions would be on the cards??A quick 5 test tour It depends on how you read into this as we have had the Danish team "Testing" at the EWR in the past but it seems most posters have took it on to mean "Test Matches", which would not be a bad thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted November 26, 2017 Like it but I feel it would be more interesting with NO current GP riders in ( wether they ride in England or not ). Id agree with that. I think some of them would not take up the offer as it would have to be BSPA rates and I remember Cook not being happy with them on more than one occasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 26, 2017 Unfortunately not by me. Surely I'm not the only one who isn't really interested in Individual Meetings? I'm sorry you feel that way Gemini. Hopefully, we can agree to differ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,939 Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) It depends on how you read into this as we have had the Danish team "Testing" at the EWR in the past but it seems most posters have took it on to mean "Test Matches", which would not be a bad thing. What I read was they wanted to carry on with the test matches they held this year.Think there were a number home and away against young Sweden Found two tests at Slangerup and Vojens v Sweden end of September/start of October Edited November 26, 2017 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,242 Posted November 26, 2017 I'm sorry you feel that way Gemini. Hopefully, we can agree to differ. The beauty of speedway, in my view, was that there was once an opportunity to watch meetings run under different formats to add a bit of variety...which I'm sure was unusual as regards most other sports? However with people's tastes changing and being more selective in their choice of entertainment generally it's only the fixtures that 'carry weight' that appear to attract fans now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 26, 2017 The beauty of speedway, in my view, was that there was once an opportunity to watch meetings run under different formats to add a bit of variety...which I'm sure was unusual as regards most other sports? However with people's tastes changing and being more selective in their choice of entertainment generally it's only the fixtures that 'carry weight' that appear to attract fans now. I guess you are right. I used to love the Four Team Tournament Competitions too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 895 Posted November 26, 2017 Anyone care to comment factually on the rumour thats appeared on other threads that there is no longer a Premiership requirement to include 2 Brits (or 2 former/current NL riders)?? sure it was said 42.50 limit with no restrictions think the compulsery 2ppointer rule was a big disaster so back to the old way just let teams fill the places with whoever they think will do the job or fit the budget Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheReturn 1,724 Posted November 26, 2017 It'a shame the money can't be found to pay decent money (rider expenses and promotion) for a speedway equivalent of Ashes series every two seasons alternating between down under (after the SGP) and the UK. I mean lets be honest, we would all love to stuff the whinging Aussies... (sadly I suspect they would stuff us right now), but I think could still be of interest. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PolskiZuzel 329 Posted November 26, 2017 (...) It is now a team sport (...) Like football, fans want to watch their team ... That might be so...but in my eyes speedway is an individual sport, like boxing or athletics, etc. Of course footbal fans want to watch their team. There would be no football if there were no teams, but speedway is one guy against three others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites