A ORLOV 8,628 Posted November 24, 2017 Forward thinking Championship clubs might be able to sign Morris and Thorrsell at a discounted price (per point) on the assumption they will be able to top up their earnings with lashings of Premiership guest bookings. Similarly, a big bonus of signing for Swindon is that it will free up a rider's availability to do Premiership guest bookings. But will that reduce his average for 2019 so that he can then, if things stay the same, get a team place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted November 24, 2017 But will that reduce his average for 2019 so that he can then, if things stay the same, get a team place. No, it won't change his Premiership average. Don't forget, in 2019 the rules are likely going to change again. How often are these arbitrary limits kept for more than one year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted November 24, 2017 I very much doubt the one over 8 will be in the league next year as it's likely the top riders will have bigger averages now the tac sub rule has been brought back in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy jimmy 298 Posted November 24, 2017 They should allow short term replacements for an injured no 1, the cup final would have been a lot better with Zagar and Woffinden in it, Fricke and Lindgren didn't total themselves for a tactical gain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProudtobeaBrummie 646 Posted November 25, 2017 In any other team sport players get injured correct ? and when they do so there respective teams get weaker that is just a fact so why should speedway be any different ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) The solution, IMO, is a guest pool. Riders like Hancock, Woffinden, Lindback ate who don't ride over here could be used as a guest by any team. Riders in the guest pool would get averages after 6 meetings like other riders. Solves the issue of no guests being available and also solves the issue of using another teams rider as a guest. In effect they would be short term (1 week) signings. Edited November 26, 2017 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted November 25, 2017 The solution, IMO, is a guest Poole. Riders like Hancock, Woffinden, Lindback ate who don't ride over here could be used as a guest by any team. Riders in the guest pool would get averages after 6 meetings like other riders. Solves the issue of no guests being available and also solves the issue of using another teams rider as a guest. In effect they would be short term (1 week) signings. That’s too open to abuse. Woffinden (or any of the others) could go through the motions and get themselves even lower averages for next year. Better that every GP rider has a minimum of 8 whilst a GP rider. It’s already crazy that those three, Zagar and Chris Holder have an average below Nick Morris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenGauntlet 45 Posted November 25, 2017 The solution, IMO, is a guest Poole. Riders like Hancock, Woffinden, Lindback ate who don't ride over here could be used as a guest by any team. Riders in the guest pool would get averages after 6 meetings like other riders. Solves the issue of no guests being available and also solves the issue of using another teams rider as a guest. In effect they would be short term (1 week) signings. We already have a guest pool - it's called the SGB Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted November 25, 2017 We already have a guest pool - it's called the SGB Championship.We dont. The Championship riders already double up in the Premiership. And it wont be long before Jason Doyle is injured and has to be replaced by Jonas B Andersen and Swindon fans decide, idiot this, Im not going yet replace him with Hancock, Woffinden, Dudek.... and theyll attend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted November 26, 2017 The solution, IMO, is a guest Poole. Riders like Hancock, Woffinden, Lindback ate who don't ride over here could be used as a guest by any team. Riders in the guest pool would get averages after 6 meetings like other riders. Solves the issue of no guests being available and also solves the issue of using another teams rider as a guest. In effect they would be short term (1 week) signings. This is a good idea although I'm not sure about giving them averages after 6 meetings. Would these riders accept to be in something like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted November 26, 2017 So now what? You have two riders injured, you use R/R for one, what do you do for the other? Because the other 7 teams will all be racing themselves on most Mondays and Wednesdays now. Come on, now your not being very proactive are we. ?? All them riders missing out because of this '1over8' rule will be allowed to guest if and when required. Surely you can see this as just another way to manipulate the rules to those who see fit.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JmeRay 53 Posted November 26, 2017 The solution, IMO, is a guest Poole. Riders like Hancock, Woffinden, Lindback ate who don't ride over here could be used as a guest by any team. Riders in the guest pool would get averages after 6 meetings like other riders. Solves the issue of no guests being available and also solves the issue of using another teams rider as a guest. In effect they would be short term (1 week) signings. Interesting idea although I'm not sure how it would work logistically or financially. None of those riders are currently set up over here. They could also demand huge pay rates for a call up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted November 26, 2017 Interesting idea although I'm not sure how it would work logistically or financially. None of those riders are currently set up over here. They could also demand huge pay rates for a call up. Potentially it's not at all possible. But they all manage to get bikes here for Cardiff. Woffinden lives in the UK for a start so I'd be shocked if he doesn't have any kit here. It might not work but it preferable to either not being able to get a decent replacement or frankly having to use next week opposition rider. You never know, the thought of a 8-12 meetings as and when it is mutually beneficial may be enough for the top guys to leave a bike or two in the UK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DunRobin 465 Posted November 26, 2017 Nick Morris, if he doesn't get a team in the top flight. BTW, if Nick Morris just rides Second Division, who can he guest in place of? Presumably, all of a sudden, he'd no longer be an over-8 point rider? Morris will be riding for the Robins this season as according to Jason's tweet, he won't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted November 26, 2017 Morris will be riding for the Robins this season as according to Jason's tweet, he won't be. Looks like it, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites