SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 So the BSPA/SCB have decided a riders average can not prevent him riding for a lower league team. What’s to stop a team building to 50 or 60 points now then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,151 Posted February 25, 2018 Think the name of this thread should be changed now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,692 Posted February 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, SCB said: So the BSPA/SCB have decided a riders average can not prevent him riding for a lower league team. What’s to stop a team building to 50 or 60 points now then? Because team building points limits apply to every team and are lawful. The 'ruling' preventing Scotty and Eddie from doubling down was NOT LAWFUL ... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soupy 556 Posted February 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Think the name of this thread should be changed now Have they now done a u turn again lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, SCB said: So the BSPA/SCB have decided a riders average can not prevent him riding for a lower league team. What’s to stop a team building to 50 or 60 points now then? I think the difference is team points limits are reasonable and fair across the board. Its rules that only effect some riders and not everyone that they take issue with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 4 hours ago, blupanther said: Because team building points limits apply to every team and are lawful. The 'ruling' preventing Scotty and Eddie from doubling down was NOT LAWFUL ... Every rider who’s average is over 6 and doesn’t have a Championship can’t drop down. It’s no different. This is a can of worms. Next year when Poole want to sign a rider over the points limit and that riders gets Scott Nicholls solicitor on th case I trust all Peterborough fans will back the move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: I think the difference is team points limits are reasonable and fair across the board. Its rules that only effect some riders and not everyone that they take issue with. So if Poole have 6.00 left and they want to sign Ncott Sicholls who’s average is 6.8 how is it any different? They have an arbitrary 6 points left and so can’t fit in a 6.8 rider. Edited February 25, 2018 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,692 Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, SCB said: Every rider who’s average is over 6 and doesn’t have a Championship can’t drop down. It’s no different. This is a can of worms. Next year when Poole want to sign a rider over the points limit and that riders gets Scott Nicholls solicitor on th case I trust all Peterborough fans will back the move. I'm sure most fans would oppose anything that is unlawful... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, SCB said: So if Poole have 6.00 left and they want to sign Ncott Sicholls who’s average is 6.8 how is it any different? They have an arbitrary 6 points left and so can’t fit in a 6.8 rider. The two cases are entirely different. One was found to be unlawful, and the other isn't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tsunami said: The two cases are entirely different. One was found to be unlawful, and the other isn't. The only reason the points limit hasn’t been found illegal is because nobody has taken it to court yet. But having seen this example you really don’t think someone will? Also is this a first, Tsunami not siding with the BSPA?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, blupanther said: I'm sure most fans would oppose anything that is unlawful... That’s good. End of the asset system and the points limit in the next 12 months then? Lead by Ged and Scott in their quest for fairness, obviously. Out of curiosity, can Jason Doyle double up now? Or Tai Woffinden? Or Greg Hancock? Edited February 25, 2018 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, SCB said: That’s good. End of the asset system and the points limit in the next 12 months then? Lead by Ged and Scott in their quest for fairness, obviously. Out of curiosity, can Jason Doyle double up now? Or Tai Woffinden? Or Greg Hancock? Doyle - no Hancock - no Woffy - yes Re the points limit my take is that it would only be illegal if it was set differently for different teams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, SCB said: The only reason the points limit hasn’t been found illegal is because nobody has taken it to court yet. But having seen this example you really don’t think someone will? Also is this a first, Tsunami not siding with the BSPA?! Rubbish. It is an arbitrary limit on team strength, and anybody could be signed to make a team within that limit. No restraint of trade in any way. If it was illegal it would mean every rider without a team could sue for not being chosen to ride. Don't get on here much lately then. There is more on here that wouldn't agree with any decision the BSPA made, even if the idea was a good decision like the points system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All4back 40 Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, SCB said: That’s good. End of the asset system and the points limit in the next 12 months then? Lead by Ged and Scott in their quest for fairness, obviously. Out of curiosity, can Jason Doyle double up now? Or Tai Woffinden? Or Greg Hancock? "an agreement was reached allowing further opportunities for the use of "home grown" riders" From Fridays press release. Guess Tai can Jason and Greg can't, but of course that is subject to any legal action that may be pursued Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Doyle - no Hancock - no Woffy - yes Re the points limit my take is that it would only be illegal if it was set differently for different teams Isn’t there a glaring contradiction in your post? Points limit only illegal if it’s different from different teams but some riders can double up but not others? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites