mikebv 10,263 Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, proud panther said: If you witnessed the pathetic effort by Kevin Doolan, when he guested for Peterborough last year, when he was on a guaranteed amount, you wouldn't want any rider getting a set amount to just turn up. Pay them per point, & make them earn their money. Or have more riders vying for their position...? Far too easy to get a job for a season in Speedway regardless of performance due to not enough competition for places. . First though you would have to get rid of the situation where you know your average maybe too high to get you a job the following year, cannot blame riders for not scoring in the short term to ensure they earn in the long term.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GiveusaB Posted December 13, 2017 mikebv is spot on.....'riders deliberately lowering their average' or at least 'keeping it down'.....how can the authorities not see this ??? Cant blame them ! Blame the BSPA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East End Fan 426 Posted December 13, 2017 The lower the points average allowed, the more that riders will deliberately lower their average to make sure they get a ream place the following year. Is there a case for doing away with a total limit for team building ? Rich clubs would probably always win, but who is rich anyway these days ? Points manipulation would disappear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,064 Posted December 14, 2017 Seems like the promoters don’t like an early start. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevec 300 Posted December 14, 2017 23 hours ago, East End Fan said: The lower the points average allowed, the more that riders will deliberately lower their average to make sure they get a ream place the following year. Is there a case for doing away with a total limit for team building ? Rich clubs would probably always win, but who is rich anyway these days ? Points manipulation would disappear. Is there really that much manipulation going on now we have the rolling averages? I know people talk about it but I am not sure it really happens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,064 Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, stevec said: Is there really that much manipulation going on now we have the rolling averages? I know people talk about it but I am not sure it really happens Rolling averages don’t exist anymore in the top 2 leagues and never did in the NL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevec 300 Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Islander15 said: Rolling averages don’t exist anymore in the top 2 leagues and never did in the NL Lol, just when you think you know it all! Now I get why Kelsey is back on such a low average! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevec 300 Posted December 14, 2017 Anyway, moving on. Looks like eastie are not using Jake Knight as his average is too high so I am guessing thats been discussed and decided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted December 14, 2017 Kelly Armstrong has posted on Facebook that Jon won't be at Mildenhall because he doesn't fit. Points limit decided, then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted December 14, 2017 39 points, apparently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunters 210 Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, stevec said: Anyway, moving on. Looks like eastie are not using Jake Knight as his average is too high so I am guessing thats been discussed and decided. Where did that come from? his average is about mid way in the top dozen NL riders so not too high unless they are going to do without a top no 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglesno1 43 Posted December 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hunters said: Where did that come from? his average is about mid way in the top dozen NL riders so not too high unless they are going to do without a top no 1. From his twitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted December 14, 2017 No cradley. Sad news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greyhoundp 990 Posted December 14, 2017 Lakeside & Cradley out, Coventry in (subject to confirmation) Cradley to run in National Trophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,064 Posted December 14, 2017 Is it just me or has nothing happened today? It seems like nothing has changed other than Cradley have taken a step back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites