pete cc 322 Posted December 27, 2017 On 15/12/2017 at 12:31 PM, uk_martin said: Someone needs to establish what the aims and objectives of the NL are. Are they to: 1. Provide as strong a league as possible, competing for the attentions of CL riders thereby getting as many bums on seats as possible? OR 2. To develop young British talent, allowing a start in the sport to those with talent and determination and providing a competitive springboard into their future careers at a higher level? OR 3. To become a retirement home for low achievers at the ends of their careers or after their form or confidence has been lost, and to act as a "Seniors Tour" for the over 30's? I suspect Stoke would vote for "3", but the problem with 1 & 2 is that you have competing and conflicting interests. Teams like Belle Vue will be glad to nurture young talent as they have a stake in the bigger picture, with the Aces being one of the teams who will benefit from the throughput of talent. Other teams, such as Birmingham, with no further stake in the sport outside of the exit to their car parks will only really care about themselves, will only get aggrieved at the drain of talent that they nurture, and will therefore do what's necessary to win the league (at all costs if some accusations are to be believed) The 39 point limit seems to force a happy medium between 1 & 2, and I only wish that there was some way to compel riders with 8.00 & above averages to ride at a higher level and not block the prospects of young upstarts. I wish that some kind of scheme could be arranged whereby anyone this year finishing the NL on an 8.00 average or above was given a guaranteed CL reserve slot for an entire season, somewhere, in exchange for being barred from the NL next season. It's not penalising success, it's promoting personal development. All 3. If you don't entertain people don't come. Very few tracks can't run if the people don't come. Older riders should not be discriminated against but should be used to help the younger ones. The points limit could have been higher. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted December 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, pete cc said: All 3. I go back to my "horse designed by committee" comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 511 Posted December 27, 2017 Actually, camels are highly evolved and very useful ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted December 27, 2017 10 hours ago, *JJ said: Actually, camels are highly evolved and very useful ... Camels are pretty good at being camels. They are not very good at being horses though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 511 Posted December 28, 2017 Depends on what you want them to do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, *JJ said: Depends on what you want them to do! Life's too short... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) I have a question about the rules and I didn't feel that it was worth a new thread so I thought this thread would be the best place to ask. If, FOR EXAMPLE, Jason King or Adam McKinna or Andrew Tully was going to make a comeback in the NL, I know they won't and this is purely example, how would their averages be worked out? Or would they come in on 3.00 averages as new British riders? Edited December 29, 2017 by Dandelion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whisperer 276 Posted December 29, 2017 Check their ages first, they might need special dispensation from a pal on the management committee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted December 29, 2017 Depends what team they would be going too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted December 31, 2017 On 29/12/2017 at 8:44 PM, mac101 said: Depends what team they would be going too Stoke Potters, probably. They are usually the specialist receptical for old crocs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickie Head 247 Posted June 23, 2018 NL green sheet averages. Are these rolling averages with 2017 included? Are National Trophy and KO Cup included? Does the four home and four away criteria apply? Does the 23 of the month calculation date apply? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the hobbit 153 Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) this years green sheet NL Averages 2018 matches only National trophy and knock out cup do not count average earned after completeing FOUR national league matches, be they all home, all away or any combination the new average comes into effect 7 days after completion of the fourth N L match thereafter, all future NL matches up to 23rd of next calendar month go towards each subsequent new average which then takes effect from 1st iof each calendar month unattached 3 point riders can no longer go through the season guesting here there and everywhere without getter by an average. They now get an average after competing in 4 NL matches, no matter who they ride for during those four matches clear as mud!!! Edited June 23, 2018 by the hobbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,018 Posted June 26, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 8:09 PM, the hobbit said: this years green sheet NL Averages 2018 matches only National trophy and knock out cup do not count average earned after completeing FOUR national league matches, be they all home, all away or any combination the new average comes into effect 7 days after completion of the fourth N L match thereafter, all future NL matches up to 23rd of next calendar month go towards each subsequent new average which then takes effect from 1st iof each calendar month unattached 3 point riders can no longer go through the season guesting here there and everywhere without getter by an average. They now get an average after competing in 4 NL matches, no matter who they ride for during those four matches clear as mud!!! Danny Phillips completed 4 matches for Coventry but hasn't been given a new ave? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Danny Phillips completed 4 matches for Coventry but hasn't been given a new ave? Danny’s GSA is 7.33 from 1st July Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,064 Posted June 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Danny Phillips completed 4 matches for Coventry but hasn't been given a new ave? Even though the rule reads as when a rider achieves 4 meetings he gets a new average, it’s been consistently applied that only when a team rides 4 meetings does the riders who’ve have ridden 4 meetings get a new average. If their fourth meeting is later on (like Phillips) they get a new average at the start of the following month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites