MattK 3,447 Posted March 2, 2018 In the BSPA's defence(!) they have clearly stated the rule*, however many people have abbreviated it to mean British riders. *Riders who have previously been eligible for the old Conference League, or the current National Development League, are now eligible for the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,238 Posted March 2, 2018 How does that apply to Rory Schlein? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barney Rabbit 713 Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: How does that apply to Rory Schlein? He rodeĀ for Sheffield Prowlers in the Conference back in 2001/02. Edited March 2, 2018 by Barney Rabbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,819 Posted March 2, 2018 2 hours ago, MattK said: In the BSPA's defence(!) they have clearly stated the rule*, however many people have abbreviated it to mean British riders. *Riders who have previously been eligible for the old Conference League, or the current National Development League, are now eligible for the Championship. As always they leave themselves wide open to interpretation. It's true that any nationality that have ridden in the 3rd tier are eligible. That's not really in dispute.Ā The ruling of BRITISH RIDERS ONLY should be the only addendum required when talking about riders being eligible to double up irrespective of averages. It's NOT illegal to add that, all the other European leagues look after their own and they fall under the same EU rulings that the UK does or currently do. Whether they would ever be challenged is a different argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted March 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, stevebrum said: As always they leave themselves wide open to interpretation. It's true that any nationality that have ridden in the 3rd tier are eligible. That's not really in dispute.Ā The ruling of BRITISH RIDERS ONLY should be the only addendum required when talking about riders being eligible to double up irrespective of averages. It's NOT illegal to add that, all the other European leagues look after their own and they fall under the same EU rulings that the UK does or currently do. Whether they would ever be challenged is a different argument. It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of: race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin https://www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,819 Posted March 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, MattK said: It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of: race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin https://www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights Well intended of course however it doesn't favour those who it is meant to protect.Ā Typical UK rule. No wonder British people are second class citizens. Ā Different point of view for speedway so I'll get off this tangent.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/2/2018 at 1:29 PM, MattK said: It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of: race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin https://www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights If Poland can get away with it, why not us.??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, hyderd said: If Poland can get away with it, why not us.??? Because Poland doesn't have to comply with British law? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,683 Posted March 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, MattK said: Because Poland doesn't have to comply with British law? Surely this would all be European law and so Poland only has the sameĀ restrictions (or flexibility) as Britain 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Surely this would all be European law and so Poland only has the sameĀ restrictions (or flexibility) as Britain Why? We don't even have the same laws in England and Wales as they do in Scotland. Either way, the point is as SteveBrum said, there was likely a gentlemen's agreement between teams and riders. Nicholls broke this by seeking legal advice. Therefore, if the BSPA/SCB want rules and regulations which cannot be challenged legally by any team or rider who disagrees, their new rules have to comply with the law, one of which prohibits discrimination on the grounds of nationality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,238 Posted March 4, 2018 As far as I know all EU countries committed to bring in equality legislation - we have the Equality Act 2010, Poland has the Equal Treatment Act 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,683 Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, MattK said: Why? We don't even have the same laws in England and Wales as they do in Scotland. Either way, the point is as SteveBrum said, there was likely a gentlemen's agreement between teams and riders. Nicholls broke this by seeking legal advice. Therefore, if the BSPA/SCB want rules and regulations which cannot be challenged legally by any team or rider who disagrees, their new rules have to comply with the law, one of which prohibits discrimination on the grounds of nationality. All core legislation is blanket through the EU Such areas as employment law is a pillar of the EU charter 'Local' laws such as differences between England Scotland Wales etc would be limited to minor matters such as hospital car park charges and local taxation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: 'Local' laws such as differences between England Scotland Wales etc would be limited to minor matters such as hospital car park charges and local taxation Differences are far more than that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_law Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted March 4, 2018 50 minutes ago, MattK said: Because Poland doesn't have to comply with British law? Poland are in the EU, so should have to play by EU laws, yes or no.???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,683 Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, MattK said: Differences are far more than that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_law The link quite clearly quotes 'Since the UK joined the EU Scots law has also been affected by European law....' Next... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites