ch958 2,393 Posted February 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: AS a matter off interest, if you took all the doubling up riders out of their CL teams, who would you replace them with? NL riders besides if it was done gradually over 2 or 3 years it would be managed better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,882 Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ch958 said: NL riders besides if it was done gradually over 2 or 3 years it would be managed better This is what I don't get with speedway fans, they just don't make sense - All I keep reading is how the product has been watered down so much and now we have people claiming they want the likes of Morris, Nicholls, Lawson, Harris, Worrall etc stopped from doubling up and replaced with National league riders. It's like banging your head against a brick wall! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,393 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) thats because you're equating name riders with good racing. As a lifelong 2nd tier fan i prefer 2nd div riders and racing. And they'd be doubling down not up. Not everyone feels like me or you and thats fine, is just opinions Edited February 27, 2018 by ch958 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted February 28, 2018 23 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: BUT its not the same people So who is on the SCB committee? When I enquired I was told it was basically a mix of mainly speedway promoters and a few referees thrown in for good measure. So if the speedway promoters are there, and speedway promoters are in the BSPA, barring a minority influence of the referees, what's the big difference? AND if there is a big difference, and the promoters aren't involved in the SCB, then isn't this the answer to so many people's dreams of an "Independent Body" to run the sport? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,882 Posted February 28, 2018 20 hours ago, ch958 said: thats because you're equating name riders with good racing. As a lifelong 2nd tier fan i prefer 2nd div riders and racing. And they'd be doubling down not up. Not everyone feels like me or you and thats fine, is just opinions I've followed Somerset from the Conference League, into the Premier League and now into the Premiership. The Conference League was by far the worst standard of racing and entertainment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Najjer said: I've followed Somerset from the Conference League, into the Premier League and now into the Premiership. The Conference League was by far the worst standard of racing and entertainment. I don't actually agree the Conference league meetings i have seen over the years have been pretty good overall.Now i would say the level is getting higher and higher giving the likes of Kemp/Edwards, Flint there first step on the ladder. Edited February 28, 2018 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,393 Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Najjer said: I've followed Somerset from the Conference League, into the Premier League and now into the Premiership. The Conference League was by far the worst standard of racing and entertainment. i saw the second ever meeting at Somerset and i thought it was terrific and i think the second division would be reinvigorated by an influx of 3rd div riders and the moving on of riders like Barker, Lawson, etc etc to the top division. They can double up of course - in Denmark, Sweden, Germany or Poland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, uk_martin said: So who is on the SCB committee? When I enquired I was told it was basically a mix of mainly speedway promoters and a few referees thrown in for good measure. So if the speedway promoters are there, and speedway promoters are in the BSPA, barring a minority influence of the referees, what's the big difference? AND if there is a big difference, and the promoters aren't involved in the SCB, then isn't this the answer to so many people's dreams of an "Independent Body" to run the sport? Taken from a website...... The Bureau consists of 4 nominated Members, two representing the ACU are Tony Steele and Graham Reeve (ACU Members) whilst Alex Harkess (BSPA President) and Gordon Pairman (BSPA Promoter) represent the British Speedway Promoters Association under the independent Chairmanship of Tony Gillias (a former Rider with Coventry & Scunthorpe). Now thinking about it the decision was made by the BSPA,but was it 100%?If it wasn't,then it is of course possible that one or maybe both of the promoters were against it in the first place.But obviously they are in the minority,so even if both were for the decision,then there is the chance they could be outvoted,which is a 'big difference' Edited February 28, 2018 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
